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Tell us about the dinosaurs
RE: Tell us about the dinosaurs
(November 24, 2010 at 9:12 am)rjh4 Wrote:
(November 19, 2010 at 6:28 am)Arcanus Wrote: Since I get a lot of emails every week, could you refresh my memory as to who you are (name or email address)? I do my best to stay on top of my email discussions and answer every question, but some can and do get missed. I'm pretty sure I've answered all the creationism emails I've been receiving, but it's possible I've dropped yours somehow.

Arcanus,

I resent the e-mail that you previously did not answer along with another a couple of days ago. Is your e-mail working?
(November 23, 2010 at 3:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: This was refuted by galileo who dropped a ball and a feather off the leaning tower of piza (mmmm Piza).

I looked this up. Apparently, at least some think Galileo didn't actually perform any such experiment. Furthermore, from what I could find any such experiment was with two balls (cannon and wooden) anyway, not a ball and a feather. I would think that if one did the experiment (dropping two objects from the tower of Pisa) with a ball (say a baseball) and a feather, the ball would reach the ground first (and significantly faster). I think the wind resistance would cause the feather to reach its terminal velocity quicker than the baseball and would have a slower terminal velocity than the baseball. To properly perform the experiment, one would have to do it in a vacuum. In one of the websites I found there was a video of a hammer and a feather being dropped on the moon.

Well you got the idea.

People knew about gravity before newton and the apple was my poorly researched point.

That was correct even if almost everything else wasnt.Big Grin




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RE: Tell us about the dinosaurs
(November 23, 2010 at 12:25 pm)orogenicman Wrote: There was no strawman in what I posted. It directly addressed a portion of your response, as I've outlined ...

No, it directly addressed what you hear "most Christians" arguing every day, which is certainly a straw man because it absolutely is different from what I argue: "Where did I ever suggest anecdotal evidence is scientific? Nowhere. Where did I ever suggest that one's anecdotal evidence should be persuasive for someone else? Again, nowhere. Where did I ever suggest that science does, or even should, rely on anecdotes as evidence of anything? Once again, nowhere."

If you want to address what "most Christians" say to you (or within earshot of you) and ignore what I actually said, go ahead. But don't pretend it has any relevance to me.

orogenicman Wrote:You really ought to learn to control your temper, dude.

What temper? The swearing? Good grief, what sort of anal retentive upbringing did you have that swearing is an indication of anger? In the great big world beyond your uptight notions, some people swear for emphasis, or out of frustration, etc., without any temper or anger at all. Seriously. Get out of the basement sometime and see.

orogenicman Wrote:So you were saying that the idea of testing for the existence of God is a non-starter? Odd. It appeared to me that you were arguing just the opposite.

Glad it finally sank in for you.

orogenicman Wrote:But hey, if you don't believe that one can devise a test to verify the existence of God, then our arguments aren't so far apart after all.

Oh please, dude, our arguments could not possibly get any further apart. Mine are rational, for starters.

orogenicman Wrote:No, sir. I submit to you that you dismiss what I post because you can't post a level headed rebuttal.

Your delusional submission is noted.

orogenicman Wrote:I suspect that my grasp of the Christian religion is at least as good as anyone else's ...

Yeah? Give us some reason to think that's true by answering your bolded question.




(November 24, 2010 at 9:12 am)rjh4 Wrote: I resent the e-mail that you previously did not answer, along with another a couple of days ago. Is your e-mail working?

Yes, sir—but then so was I (working). I've been quite swamped for the last while. I respond to emails and here when I can. I've since written you back.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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RE: Tell us about the dinosaurs
Arc-anus Wrote:No, it directly addressed what you hear "most Christians" arguing every day, which is certainly a straw man because it absolutely is different from what I argue: "Where did I ever suggest anecdotal evidence is scientific? Nowhere. Where did I ever suggest that one's anecdotal evidence should be persuasive for someone else? Again, nowhere. Where did I ever suggest that science does, or even should, rely on anecdotes as evidence of anything? Once again, nowhere." If you want to address what "most Christians" say to you (or within earshot of you) and ignore what I actually said, go ahead. But don't pretend it has any relevance to me.

So what? The fact that most Christians do, in fact make such arguments every day makes it germaine to the discussion, regardless of whether or not you subscribe to such nafarious arguments. Do you really think this is all about you? If you want something done about your Christian friends making such arguments, I suggest you discuss it with them.

orogenicman Wrote:You really ought to learn to control your temper, dude.

Arc-anus Wrote:What temper? The swearing? Good grief, what sort of anal retentive upbringing did you have that swearing is an indication of anger? In the great big world beyond your uptight notions, some people swear for emphasis, or out of frustration, etc., without any temper or anger at all. Seriously. Get out of the basement sometime and see.

Erm, that temper. Angel Cloud

orogenicman Wrote:So you were saying that the idea of testing for the existence of God is a non-starter? Odd. It appeared to me that you were arguing just the opposite.

Arc-anus Wrote:Glad it finally sank in for you.

orogenicman Wrote:But hey, if you don't believe that one can devise a test to verify the existence of God, then our arguments aren't so far apart after all.

Quote:Oh please, dude, our arguments could not possibly get any further apart. Mine are rational, for starters.

So, you will be providing us with comic relief. I'm impressed.

orogenicman Wrote:No, sir. I submit to you that you dismiss what I post because you can't post a level headed rebuttal.

Arc-anus Wrote:Your delusional submission is noted.

Thanks for proving my point. Cool Shades

orogenicman Wrote:I suspect that my grasp of the Christian religion is at least as good as anyone else's ...

Arc-anus Wrote:Yeah? Give us some reason to think that's true by answering your bolded question.

Nice re-direct attempt. Try answering the question yourself instead.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

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