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Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
(August 17, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Slavery would never have survived the Industrial Revolution, it was far too inefficient a system to linger.  I'm always amused by northern industrialists who railed against the evils of slavery while treating the workers in their fire-trap factories as expendable and infinitely replaceable Irish scum.  Being poor in 1860 pretty much sucked.  Slave or free.

True, but there is still a world of difference. The irish worker didn't worry about his wife and children being sold off. But yeah, slavery would not have survived in the long term, regardless of the civil war.
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Can the metal ones be melted down and turned into weapons? Now that would be the American way!
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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(August 17, 2017 at 6:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 17, 2017 at 6:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Well it didn't take very long for someone to set their sites on Mount Rushmore, HERE

But then again, its not like we couldn't see that coming. Someone please tell me Vice is a parody site.

Why don't you go throw your body in front of it and stay there until a buffalo sticks a horn up your ass.

That's really violent to say that to someone... Sad
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Argumentum ad Hitlerum wasn't bad enough? Now we have argumentum ad Al Qaedaum. What a world.
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

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(August 17, 2017 at 7:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 17, 2017 at 6:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Why don't you go throw your body in front of it and stay there until a buffalo sticks a horn up your ass.

That's really violent to say that to someone...  Sad

I really don't like that sanctimonious sonofabitch.... in case you hadn't noticed.
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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

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(August 16, 2017 at 2:25 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(August 16, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The sentiment is of a similar kind even if not to the same degree.

With that logic, someone saying "I hope Trump is impeached" is just a lower degree of someone actually trying to assassinate him.

What in the world is going on in your head, dude?
(emphasis is mine)

Poor quality pharmaceuticals?
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Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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(August 17, 2017 at 3:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It's about context. MLK was not campaigning for adultery. R.E. Lee was leading armies defending chatteldom; that was the notable achievement of his life. Not every context, and not every personage, is equally good. Germany has exactly zero statues of Hitler, but somehow they manage to remember their own history. How's that work?

You want historical significance? Put these statues in a museum ... and provide context for those who are otherwise deaf to it. Why are conservatives so afraid of museums?

I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. Honestly, I personally don't have a strong opinion on these statues either way. I guess the fairest thing to do would be to let the people of the city itself decide. My response was only to say that Neo's opinion on this particular issue with historical statues doesn't make him a supremacist sympathizer, even if it is the same opinion as the supremacist themselves.

I sure agree that the decisions should be local. But I also think that if I share an opinion with another person or persons, that makes me sympathetic to them, by definition.

When you lay down with dogs you're bound to get fleas.

(August 17, 2017 at 4:55 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: At any rate, I still think it's at least a decent compromise, provided it's done for the less abhorrent figures of history; any statues of (for one example) Jefferson Davis can rot in Hell for all I care. I can't find much in the way of context worth celebrating him for.

Yesterday, I drove into north Austin to pick up a replacement tube for my guitar amplifier. During my long-ass traffic-ridden misery, I passed a street: Jeff Davis St read the sign.

It didn't hurt me ... but then again, I don't have any slaves in my genealogy. The only thing it made me think was, "hey, they named a street after that prick here, too."

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