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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 5:10 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm)A Theist Wrote: You're still a peon in the wider scope of things like the rest of us. Piss off your bosses, you can be replaced.
Yep, so admit it you are justifying "fuck you" and "might makes right".
NO FUCKING SHIT. so what?
It still remains no matter what short term or even long term power those with more resources gain, power shifts and economies change. Shit on on labor long enough your system will collapse. It is why BOTH the American Revolution and the Russian Revolution were fought.
Making it a bullshit argument about going from a closed society to an open society or from an open society to a closed society doesn't change the fact that labor matters.
Yep so by your standards since the King of England had power, and Stalin had power, might makes right.
HOW ABOUT NO, AND FUCK YOU.
Business owners have more resources is true, but if you cannot accept that they rely on the labor they get rich off of, then you do not understand why either the American Revolution or the Russian Revolution happened.
No wonder he loves the GOP
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 5:13 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm)A Theist Wrote: You're still a peon in the wider scope of things like the rest of us. Piss off your bosses, you can be replaced.
Yep, so admit it you are justifying "fuck you" and "might makes right".
NO FUCKING SHIT. so what?
It still remains no matter what short term or even long term power those with more resources gain, power shifts and economies change. Shit on on labor long enough your system will collapse. It is why BOTH the American Revolution and the Russian Revolution were fought.
Making it a bullshit argument about going from a closed society to an open society or from an open society to a closed society doesn't change the fact that labor matters.
Yep so by your standards since the King of England had power, and Stalin had power, might makes right.
HOW ABOUT NO, AND FUCK YOU.
Business owners have more resources is true, but if you cannot accept that they rely on the labor they get rich off of, then you do not understand why either the American Revolution or the Russian Revolution happened.
It would have just been too tactless for me to point out that it is much more likely for someone like me to be his boss than someone like him to be my boss.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 5:19 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, so admit it you are justifying "fuck you" and "might makes right".
NO FUCKING SHIT. so what?
It still remains no matter what short term or even long term power those with more resources gain, power shifts and economies change. Shit on on labor long enough your system will collapse. It is why BOTH the American Revolution and the Russian Revolution were fought.
Making it a bullshit argument about going from a closed society to an open society or from an open society to a closed society doesn't change the fact that labor matters.
Yep so by your standards since the King of England had power, and Stalin had power, might makes right.
HOW ABOUT NO, AND FUCK YOU.
Business owners have more resources is true, but if you cannot accept that they rely on the labor they get rich off of, then you do not understand why either the American Revolution or the Russian Revolution happened.
It would have just been too tactless for me to point out that it is much more likely for someone like me to be his boss than someone like him to be my boss.
By his logic, money and wealth are the only thing that matters. If we go by his logic then Gaddaffi was a good guy because he was a billionaire who owned stock in General Electric. If his logic worked the way he claims then Fidel Castro was a good guy because his estimated wealth at one point was $800,000,000 dollars.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 5:57 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 4:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 4:30 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Can I ask what hell our employment has to do with taking down confederate statues ?
Not a damn thing, it's a transparent attempt at poisoning the well and deflection by our resident forum agitator troll.
His rants do provide an interesting view into the mind of a Trump supporter, IMO. I mean, there's a reason why Trump went hog wild over the notion of bringing coal jobs back... there's many people who think that legitimate work means toiling away in shitty conditions and dying in their 50s or 60s. Never mind that these jobs are rapidly being replaced by robots, or are being eliminated by market forces, it simply appeals to the base notion that work = a monotonous grind, and the nature of that grind determines a person's value.
I mean, 'bringing coal back' means, what... a few extra thousand jobs? That's nothing in a nation of 300+ million people. But it sells because it's 'honest' work and tugs at the nostalgia centers of our brains.
It's an outdated mindset to have as we rapidly become a service and information economy.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 6:41 pm
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(August 22, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, so admit it you are justifying "fuck you" and "might makes right".
NO FUCKING SHIT. so what?
It still remains no matter what short term or even long term power those with more resources gain, power shifts and economies change. Shit on on labor long enough your system will collapse. It is why BOTH the American Revolution and the Russian Revolution were fought.
Making it a bullshit argument about going from a closed society to an open society or from an open society to a closed society doesn't change the fact that labor matters.
Yep so by your standards since the King of England had power, and Stalin had power, might makes right.
HOW ABOUT NO, AND FUCK YOU.
Business owners have more resources is true, but if you cannot accept that they rely on the labor they get rich off of, then you do not understand why either the American Revolution or the Russian Revolution happened.
It would have just been too tactless for me to point out that it is much more likely for someone like me to be his boss than someone like him to be my boss. Depends on the setting. If you were a GM over a warehouse or in some other supervisory role in the service sector, you probably would. But if you were working in roofing, home maintenance, or in some of the other home building trades, I would have probably been your boss. I was in roofing and home maintenance for 42 years, with about a dozen years in manufacturing and warehouse work mixed in. I also had a pretty nice little roofing and slate repair business that myself and a friend of mine had for a few years. I was also a subcontractor for a number of years and ran my own crew. I finally burnt out and went back to working in a warehouse as a Reach Truck / Put Away Driver. It still requires a lot of heavy lifting. And yeah, I made damn good money back then.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 6:43 pm
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(August 22, 2017 at 3:38 pm)A Theist Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 8:54 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Okay, what are you talking about here?
Oh, I see. Thanks for providing an example of the behavior you think unacceptable.
[Bolding added; idiocy in original.]
(I'm still awaiting reply to the points I made in post #136. I guess these little masturbatory rants are more to your liking, though.)
You sure you want me to address your points in #136? I avoided it because you won't like what I have to say and it would turn out to be a very heated back and forth. One point, just because you're a white guy who leans a bit to the left who lives in Texas and that you have minorities in your family doesn't impress me in any way that you're an authority on race relations in the South.
Well, it's a good thing I didn't portray myself as such. I only spoke to my own personal feelings and the reasons behind them. Perhaps you should read what is written and do your best to work around the filters that your agenda seems to be imposing.
And don't worry -- if the exchange gets heated, I promise I'll do my best to take it easy on you.
(August 22, 2017 at 3:38 pm)A Theist Wrote: My family's originally from one of the border states. Most of them now have migrated into Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee. I know a bit about Southern culture, too.
So what? That puts us on somewhat equal footing, assuming you're telling the truth. But you didn't get to the other points, namely:
Quote:Give me numbers from a reputable source. I want to see how many blacks flocked to the colors to defend the institution of slavery.
Quote:The difference is that the culmination of the life's work of all these men [the Founding Fathers -- Thump] was not the defense of slavery. Also, you can let me know when they've committed treason by taking up arms against their nation.
Quote:I don't care about political affiliation. Why should that matter at all?
Quote:Here's a thought: let's put those statues in museums rather than parks. Let's put them in museums where the educational material can explain everything these guys did, and what, exactly , they were fighting for. And it wasn't about states' rights [...]
But you only chose to reply to my statement about my own background -- which I only issued to rebut your charge of googleism and "leftwing indoctrination" (which is in itself a laugh, with its assumptions and whatnot) -- and then you simply mischaracterized what I said before brushing it off.
You can answer those other points or not. Remember that silence too is an answer of sorts ... but probably not the one you'd want to give.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 7:02 pm
Quote:You sure you want me to address your points in #136? I avoided it because you won't like what I have to say and it would turn out to be a very heated back and forth. One point, just because you're a white guy who leans a bit to the left who lives in Texas and that you have minorities in your family doesn't impress me in any way that you're an authority on race relations in the South.
In other words your a coward who runs from controversy . Mostly I would imagine because when you do express your real opinion you expose the caliber of person you are.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 7:07 pm
"Silence says so much ... "
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 7:42 pm
Neo, I'm a stupid (read "foolish") motherfucker for saying this but:
You are one stupid... DUMB motherfucker. Intellect-wise.
No nothing you say in response will valid no matter how ironic or supposedly one-upping or rising-above or taking a stab back or any shit that can come out of your dumb, ignorant, inferior brain. Yes I'm condescending and arrogant as fuck (and not particularly nice) right now but I don't care. I make up for it most of the time.
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RE: Leftists Purging History or Al Queda in America
August 22, 2017 at 10:04 pm
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(August 22, 2017 at 7:42 pm)Hammy Wrote: Neo, I'm a stupid (read "foolish") motherfucker for saying this but:
You are one stupid... DUMB motherfucker. Intellect-wise.
No nothing you say in response will valid no matter how ironic or supposedly one-upping or rising-above or taking a stab back or any shit that can come out of your dumb, ignorant, inferior brain. Yes I'm condescending and arrogant as fuck (and not particularly nice) right now but I don't care. I make up for it most of the time.
Yup a Dumb ,Arrogant ,Thin skinned , Whiny , Douchebag who could reason his way out of a clear plastic bag if there was a hole in it with big red words pointing to said hole saying "out hear dumbass" And I also don't give a shit if he cries boo hoo name calling . Correct position need not be polite positions .
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