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Testimony is Evidence
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 1:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2017 at 1:25 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I used to schlepp gear for you assholes. Between you and 37f ( I married one of those ghouls) I spent pretty much the entirety of my waking hours as a mule. No idea what I did when I was asleep, but assume the both of you played me like a fiddle.
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 (August 22, 2017 at 1:24 am)Khemikal Wrote: I used to schlepp gear for you assholes. Between you and 37f ( I married one of those ghouls) I spent pretty much the entirety of my waking hours as a mule. No idea what I did when I was asleep, but assume the both of you played me like a fiddle. Yeah, sorry about that.. 
Meh, how bad could it have been, right? I was pushing granny's face in the dust when I was fully alert. If I found out that I murdered children in my sleep by remote signal my heart wouldn't skip a beat. Fuck em. The child of my enemy grows to be my enemy.
-Through the foe, to the objective, to victory overall.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 22, 2017 at 1:29 am)Khemikal Wrote: Meh, how bad could it have been, right? I was pushing granny's face in the dust when I was fully alert. If I found out that I murdered children in my sleep by remote signal my heart wouldn't skip a beat. Fuck em. The child of my enemy grows to be my enemy. My heart goes out to any elderly women that may have had their face in the dust while you were on active duty.  (August 22, 2017 at 12:22 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 21, 2017 at 11:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: We all know that RR is full of shit. How come you don't need to "check it out more" when your precious paul cites 500 unnamed witnesses? Methinks you are full of shit, RR.  (August 21, 2017 at 11:50 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 21, 2017 at 11:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: But, RR...what is it with this false dichotomy of "evidence" or "not evidence?" Why isn't, "perhaps reasonable to accept as sufficient evidence for some claims, but not others," a rational option to you? Is it because then you have no choice but to talk about the fact that testimony's value as evidence is fully intertwined with the nature of the claim? *sigh* Fine. Can we agree that testimony is not equally sufficient? for all types of claims? How does that sit with you? [/quote]
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Well, I don't know what you guys are arguing about but I side with RR.
Gotta love an underdog 
1 person retelling of an account can be a lie. 2 or more people, independent of one another, retelling the same account gives more credence to an account, yes. But note that this depends if they're independent of one another. But this doesn't even approach the issue of credulity, i.e. people echo someone else's account as if they were their own such that they believe something without real evidence to back up a claim.
To declare something as evidence takes a whole canopy of references, not just eye-witness accounts. Stuff like repeatable observations/experiments, several independent observers, blind testing and so on.
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 (August 22, 2017 at 5:38 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:[/quote](August 21, 2017 at 11:50 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: It's not a false dichotomy. The choice is A or !A, which is the law of identity. Now if you mean, that all testimony is not evidence, or not good evidence. I won't he will demand one or the other
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