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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 10:59 pm
The most clever and compelling lies are the ones we tell ourselves. Just food for thought.
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2017 at 11:01 pm by bennyboy.)
(August 22, 2017 at 10:49 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Just a note, but repeating your claim over and over again, chest thumping, and name calling, are not the makings of an intelligent or reasoned belief. However I note; they do tend to show up quite a bit as atheist arguments.
Actually, they are arguments against bullshit in general, not only against the God idea. I would not accept testimony as evidence for:
-aliens on Earth
-ghosts
-magic
-healing powers of crystals
-niggers is unruly, soulless savages
-old lady Smith in the old house is a witch
Please note that we do not thump chests and call names exclusively. We've given you infinitely more consideration, despite the general desperation and lack of merit in your argument, than a theist site would have given us. We've explained pretty clearly why we generally don't consider testimony very good evidence, and why religious testimony is particularly lacking in value.
By the way, you completely ignored my testimony on Jesus' cock-gobbling ways. Was this deliberate? I mean, testimony is evidence, and I feel you are deliberately ignoring that evidence. Why would you do that?
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:01 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 10:59 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The most clever and compelling lies are the ones we tell ourselves. Just food for thought.
Indeed
jesus, what is it about Brian, it's not like I was in love with him . . . .
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:02 pm
She'll be with me forever.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:04 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 10:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 22, 2017 at 10:41 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: As was stated in the OP... I agree.
Then you'll understand why nonbelievers don't accept testimony they cannot verify. Testimony needs backup -- even with you, clearly.
Unfortunately I'm guessing he will not and on the dance will go.
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:06 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 11:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: She'll be with me forever.
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:36 pm
What I find paticularly interesting here, is the number of criticisms which state I am ignoring the evidence, which comes in the form of testimony, when the same people are arguing that I shouldn't accept testimony as evidence. The psychology and logical abilities of some people is fascinating!
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:39 pm
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"Hur dur, anything people say is testimony."
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:49 pm
(August 22, 2017 at 11:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: What I find paticularly interesting here, is the number of criticisms which state I am ignoring the evidence, which comes in the form of testimony, when the same people are arguing that I shouldn't accept testimony as evidence. The psychology and logical abilities of some people is fascinating!
You ask for testimony and reject it, and then you laugh because people present testimony. Cognitive dissonance much?
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RE: Testimony is Evidence
August 22, 2017 at 11:51 pm
Thump, you're not saying what RR wants to hear, therefore it's evil and also wrong. You'll realize it one day, insha allah.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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