Niqab and Muslim Women

[Jackie]

[WinterHold]

[The Valkyrie]

Religiously justified gender clothing is not an invention of Islam. Christianity even today has its bullshit sexist clothing certain families and sects in Africa, South America and even in far right America force on their girls/women too. I would only say that the Burka worldwide out of all sexist clothing has to be the most oppressive to females.

Men of all the world's religions simply need to grow the fuck up and understand the bullshit sexism of antiquity does not apply in the modern world.

As an aside Atlas, do you really think you will magically get smote'd, smite'd or an underwear wedgie if you don't end your god talk with "peace be upon him"?

I promise nothing bad will happen to you if you don't say that. It is just a superstition, just like nothing bad will happen to a Star Wars fan if they don't say, "May the force be with you."


This message brought to you by ABBA, "peace be upon Agnetha". Agnetha is the blond on the right in my avatar. She was a goddess back in the 1970s. Hubba hubba.

What are these "1970s" of which you speak?

[Catholic_Lady]

It's important to remember, Val, that Christianity is not based on a literal interpretation of every passage in the bible (considering that would not be possible since many of them contradict each other)... especially as it pertains to the OT. Which explains why Christian women don't walk around with their heads covered (apart from the very fringe such as the Amish/etc) among many other things.

It varies from denomination to denomination, but Christianity is generally based on and defined by the life and teachings of Christ first and foremost. The rest is taken in its entirety, as an overall message being portrayed - not necessarily individual passages as though they were binding instructions. And they are taken secondary to the teachings of Christ. That's why when the Old Testament says things like "an eye for an eye", and Jesus directly contradicts that by telling us to love our enemies and turn our cheek, as Christians we follow the teaching of Christ between the 2.

Anyway, moral of the story being it doesn't make much sense to point to isolated passages in the bible and say that if Christians were *truly* following their religion they would follow that particular passage (example: women must cover their heads), because that is not how Christianity is.

I feel like most atheists already understand all this anyway, but figured I'd put it out there again since it was brought up.

[chimp3]

In the late 70's and through the 80's I attended many hippy gatherings. Rainbow Family Festivals. 5000 hippies way out in the sticks, a lot of nudity. It is very interesting what actually occurs when 100s of people are naked together. Picture young, beautiful, shapely males and females alongside middle aged men and woman with pot bellies, surgical scars, varicose veins, and elderly folks with everything sagging. Everyone commingling and discussing things more important than modesty. Sexual thoughts are not at the forefront. Modesty is over rated.