Emotions are intrinsically good and bad

[Transcended Dimensions]

Then you made a comment unanchored from reality or any rational judgement.  It was purely an idea.  No significance.  Make up your mind.

All bullshit aside....this particular brand of idiocy is tedious.  You don't think it contradicts your previous comments?  Who gives a shit..you're a loon.  It does.  /end

Alright, here is how it would work out.  During my worst miserable moments, I had the idea that it was a good and beautiful thing to get the help I needed to recover.  Even though that idea wasn't perceived as being good at all which would really mean it is insignificant and "dead," I still forced myself anyway to get that help just from the simple idea that I would fully recover.  So, this is the model that my worldview advocates for society.  It might be an absurd model, but, again, things that are absurd are often times things that are true.

[The Grand Nudger]

No one gives a shit, "it's absurd therefore true" is garbage.  You fucked up, you've -been- fucking up since post one, you have nothing informative whatsoever.

Look, a shoulder to cry on, fine. The rest? Garbage.

[Transcended Dimensions]

No one gives a shit, "it's absurd therefore true" is garbage.  You fucked up, you've -been- fucking up since post one, you have nothing informative whatsoever.

Look, a shoulder to cry on, fine.  The rest?  Garbage.

If you are calling BS on the notion that I didn't perceive it as a good thing to get the help I needed from the idea of it being a good thing and choosing to get that help since you might be thinking that the two are the same thing, then there is another possibility.  I could have had a positive emotion on such a small level that I could not detect it which would mean that I really did perceive (judge) it as being a good thing to get that help.  However, that level of good value in my life would be so small that I could not detect it.  After all, if there was absolutely no good value whatsoever perceived at all in regards to that situation, then it could really be the case that I would have just sat there and did nothing.

[The Grand Nudger]

Words and words and words.

Obviously there wasn't a deficit of good value, you just didn't feel good about it.  Get happy nub?

[Transcended Dimensions]

Words and words and words.

Obviously there wasn't a deficit of good value, you just didn't feel good about it.  Get happy nub?

What must I do to get this through your head?  I am trying to share to you the truth of my personal experience and here you are just denying it.  At this point, I might as well give up since I think I have explained everything that needed to be explained from every possible angle I could.

[The Grand Nudger]

Its not my head you should worry yourself about.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Its not my head you should worry yourself about.

Whatever then.  Goodbye!  I have tried my best and it has failed.  Therefore, I will just share my personal experience to others and hope that others would take deep consideration to the idea that my experience was real.  For those who take deep consideration, they might do some searching and testing of their own and discover some hidden evidence that supports my worldview/claim.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yep, -you- failed. Own it.  The failure is yours, not mine..or anyone else's.

[Transcended Dimensions]

Yep, -you- failed.  Own it.  The failure is yours, not mine..or anyone else's.

Now, I don't think anything else I say would convince you or, at least, put you into a position where you deeply consider the possibility of my worldview being true.  But here is this for anyone else who wishes to engage with me and consider the possibility of my worldview being true:

Now, I am going to point out a quote by a skeptic/neuroscientist who supports the idea of our emotions being value judgments:

Emotions are value judgments too. If they weren't, humanity would not be distinct from other mammals; we would be biological machines with no autonomy, acting purely on instinct. For example, if you are physically hurt, and the doctor treating you causes you pain during treatment, do you become angry and bite him? No, because you are able to override your instinctive anger and fear at someone causing you pain with your ability to reason that the treatment is necessary and the pain is temporary. But a dog can't reason, and will bite to stop the person causing the pain. Both the instinctive emotions AND the reasoned thoughts are value judgments.

If you would like me to show you how our emotions themselves are value judgments in addition to what the skeptic said, then that all goes back to what I said earlier in regards to wanting and liking.  Wanting and liking is what makes things matter to us in good ways.  If you just had the thought that something was good in your life, but it didn't matter to you, then you would only be thinking of it as a good thing, but you wouldn't be actually judging (seeing) it as a good thing.  Our positive emotions are the reward wanting and liking which would have to mean that they are always a value judgment of good value.  There is a study that points out how our positive emotions are the reward wanting and liking.  I will point it out to you:
 

We have found a special hedonic hotspot that is crucial for reward 'liking' and 'wanting' (and codes reward learning too). The opioid hedonic hotspot is shown in red above. It works together with another hedonic hotspot in the more famous nucleus accumbens to generate pleasure 'liking'.

‘Liking’ and ‘wanting’ food rewards: Brain substrates and roles in eating disorders
 Kent C. Berridge 2009 Mar 29.

 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic…

With that being said, our negative emotions would, therefore, have to always be value judgments of bad value since they are a form of disliking, not wanting, and a negative form of wanting.  Now that I have established this, I need to establish how our rational/thought form of value judgments are not any real value judgments.  There is a positive emotional state, there is a negative emotional state, and then there is a no emotional state (our rational value judgments) since there is positive, negative, and neutral.  An example of this would be a positive charge, a negative charge, and a neutral (no) charge.  From there, there is good, bad, and neutral (neither good nor bad).  A positive emotional state is a good value judgment, a negative emotional state is a bad value judgment, and a no emotional state (our rational value judgments) would have to be no real value judgments at all.  Therefore, our rational value judgments are not real value judgments which means they give our lives no real value while the only real value judgments are the emotions. So, it can only be our emotions that give our lives real good and bad value.  From here, let me quote what I said earlier since what I say follows from this:

All I am saying here is that, no matter how absurd it seems and no matter what situation, positive emotions are always value judgments of good value, negative emotions are always value judgments of bad value, and our rational value judgments are always no real value judgments at all.  I am convinced of this based upon my own personal experience because, during my blissful states, I have used my rational value judgments in judging things as horrible and disgusting, but none of that mattered to me.  My life was still nothing but good during that blissful state and there was no real horrible and disgusting value in my life.  The same idea applies to being in a negative emotional state and judging things in my life as good and beautiful.  None of that mattered to me either and there was no real good and beautiful value in my life either.  I could tell that these rational value judgments were nothing more than empty words in my life.

[The Grand Nudger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWIIoSf4nw