"What is the Lord of the Worlds?"

[Whateverist]

Listen closely because it proves everything, God, the true religion, etc.

Listen closely:

"The one who gives each thing its creation then guides it"

That's assuming that anything is created and that there is anything to do the creating, so essentially assuming at the outset exactly what you think is proved.  MK, you're just not thinking straight.  First fix your biochemistry, then lets discuss it.

[Cyberman]

When it clicks, it will click. Till then, keep on mocking, you mock yourselves in reality.

That click is coming from your head.

[Mystic]

That's assuming that anything is created and that there is anything to do the creating

Whether you believe the universe is the cause or God, you are created by every definition of the word created. Whether you believe chaos formed you and gave you your creation, that is up to you, but the fact is this saying something more.  There are verses talking about the one who originated us, or originated the universe, that is a different argument.

This one is simple - it's about how we are giving our definition. By definition, I don't mean explanation in a dictionary, I am saying what makes something the way it is, and it's the witness who sees everything as is through himself, because he gives everything it's creation through himself. 

I didn't want to explain it, but wow, you guys have no chance to recite Quran as you ought to recite and to see the clear proofs of God if you give everything it's worse possible interpretation and assume the worse of it.

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When it clicks, it will click. Till then, keep on mocking, you mock yourselves in reality.

That click is coming from your head.

You say it like it is bad a thing. It is a bad thing, and you know why? Because we are connected to higher reasoning, so relying solely on your brain is not enough. See how you kind of know these things but kind of don't. It's time to write down a lot what you really know for sure and what you think you know but don't. And work with what you know.

Do you know you have value? Forget how..how comes after. Yes/No.

Do you know morality to be guidance? Forget how...how comes after. Yes/No.

Write down all that love means to you, all the language contained in the word love...what it means...

Keep thinking and reflecting.

All I am hoping by all these threads, is someone begins to reflect. When you begin to reflect, and the mind get's going,  what seemed hard to understand becomes easy, and what was difficult to know because vision that you see every day.

The truth is worth seeking, and if it's not, you need to know it wasn't worth seeking before giving up on the journey, and hence, it's worth it no matter what.

[Cyberman]

You're not seeking truth, though, are you? Like GC in the other thread, you believe you found it. Come on, man, stop acting like an idiot. At least, stop acting like we're idiots.

[Mystic]

I found parts of it, there is still much for me to learn.

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And if you mean, still trying to see what I decieve myself by falsehood and what I know is true, I am still fighting that battle.

But God is a sure fact I know.

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 At least, stop acting like we're idiots.

When you see how easy it was to remember and recall the perceiver that sees things as they are which no creature does away with this vision and relies on it to exist, than when it clicks, you will see how immersed humanity was in falsehood and how clear the proofs were in the Quran as far as the existence of God.

And when you seek we are connected by nothing but beauty to a perfect source of beauty, and that is God's Name, and that his name is a leader, and this leader comes out to the world in human form, but in the Unseen, is bright Sun, or Moon or Star depending on our state of darkness or light, then you will see what I mean...

You will see all this confusion on what morality was, relativism, and all this conjecture about things, was unnecessary when guidance from God was connected to us all a long.

A book from God cannot make us see, it can remind us, but at the end, we have to reflect and see, take the leap of faith so to speak.

As long as we running away from God and his door, no amount of logic will prove reality, just as no amount of falsehood can do away with reality.

[Cyberman]

Yeah, but it's not, though, is it?

[Mystic]

Yeah, but it's not, though, is it?

It's very easy. Easy. So easy. 

It takes 5 steps.

1. Stop your journey away from the source.
2. Start thinking.
3. Believe in the truth you come to see.
4. Hold on to that faith and vision.
5. Seek to increase your vision and light.

Then you will see the darkness and light was not some cheesy metaphor, but the true kingdom where we truly reside and are tested with regards to.

You will see that it was so clear, the truth all a long. And you always knew it, but something else was going with you, something sinister from forces that didn't want you to see.

[Foxaèr]

If there was anything "easy" about suspending disbelief to embrace something not tethered to reality, we'd all be doing it.

[Minimalist]

When it clicks, it will click. Till then, keep on mocking, you mock yourselves in reality.

That click is coming from your head.

BTW, I can't figure out why the image tags did not work on that post I made above.

[Foxaèr]

BTW, I can't figure out why the image tags did not work on that post I made above.

Some images just don't. I've had that problem.