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"What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
#31
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 5:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 1, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Yeah, but it's not, though, is it?

It's very easy. Easy. So easy. 

It takes 5 steps.

1. Stop your journey away from the source.
2. Start thinking.
3. Believe in the truth you come to see.
4. Hold on to that faith and vision.
5. Seek to increase your vision and light.

Then you will see the darkness and light was not some cheesy metaphor, but the true kingdom where we truly reside and are tested with regards to.

You will see that it was so clear, the truth all a long. And you always knew it, but something else was going with you, something sinister from forces that didn't want you to see.

The reason I can say that's just bollocks is that you need to make it as vague as you possibly can, while passing it off as profound wisdom, then castigating everyone else for your intentional inability to make yourself clear. See, your words are deliberately crafted to sound deep, but really they're just nonsense. And you know they are.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#32
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 4:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: "The one who gave everything its creation and then guides it" as opposed to naturalism today:"chaotic universe somehow gave universe order and then we came out of that order and are guided by instincts created by evolution and our creation is what our brain cells tell us what we are except of course if we change our perceptions, that maybe we aren't so accurate to what the brain cells said in the past or now, actually, everyone disagrees on what we are and how we are to be guided, so really there is no true definition of what it means to be human but let us concentrate and keep our focus on how we must have come from apes, because chaos must be what created us and guidance don't worry about it, no such thing, just don't be cunt sort of thing...and don't think too much about what it means to be a cunt!"

When the part about guiding it is missing from the equation, your whole bullshit spiel falls flat, jackass.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#33
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Cyberman Wrote:
(October 1, 2017 at 5:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's very easy. Easy. So easy. 

It takes 5 steps.

1. Stop your journey away from the source.
2. Start thinking.
3. Believe in the truth you come to see.
4. Hold on to that faith and vision.
5. Seek to increase your vision and light.

Then you will see the darkness and light was not some cheesy metaphor, but the true kingdom where we truly reside and are tested with regards to.

You will see that it was so clear, the truth all a long. And you always knew it, but something else was going with you, something sinister from forces that didn't want you to see.

The reason I can say that's just bollocks is that you need to make it as vague as you possibly can, while passing it off as profound wisdom, then castigating everyone else for your intentional inability to make yourself clear. See, your words are deliberately crafted to sound deep, but really they're just nonsense. And you know they are.

There is nothing vague that are we are connected to guidance and guidance comes from one who witnesses us and defines where and whence we should go at each place and each time and moment.

It is so clear, God is a reality, that is manifest yes hidden in the sense we can't truly know it and comprehend it, but manifest in the sense, it is well connected to us and everything that exists, including love, language, including everything we see and symbolic understand and relate to, prove God.
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#34
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 6:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It is so clear, God is a reality

God can be a personal, delusional reality, certainly. I could make a purple unicorn my reality, but why would I forsake reality for the delusion?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#35
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
5 easy steps to becoming a gullible sheep!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#36
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 5:41 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 5. Seek to increase your vision and light.

Then you will see the darkness and light was not some cheesy metaphor, but the true kingdom where we truly reside and are tested with regards to.

You will see that it was so clear, the truth all a long. And you always knew it, but something else was going with you, something sinister from forces that didn't want you to see.

You LIE, citizen! There is no God.

But there is justice. I've seen the light, and basked in it's emerald effulgence.
Only those who take the oath and bear the ring know the true power of creation.

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#37
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 6:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 1, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Cyberman Wrote: The reason I can say that's just bollocks is that you need to make it as vague as you possibly can, while passing it off as profound wisdom, then castigating everyone else for your intentional inability to make yourself clear. See, your words are deliberately crafted to sound deep, but really they're just nonsense. And you know they are.

There is nothing vague that are we are connected to guidance and guidance comes from one who witnesses us and defines where and whence we should go at each place and each time and moment.

It is so clear, God is a reality, that is manifest yes hidden in the sense we can't truly know it and comprehend it, but manifest in the sense, it is well connected to us and everything that exists, including love, language, including everything we see and symbolic understand and relate to, prove God.

It's so clear, yet you won't explain anything about it that's not couched in deliberately opaque verbiage. See, words are tools that, wielded skilfully, can paint imagery in the readers' minds. I can quite easily do a search-and-replace for the word "God" in everything you just said and put in, say, "magic sandwich" instead, without altering the sense or meaning of anything (for a given value of "sense" and "meaning", obviously). That's the hallmark of a broken argument, one that simply can not stand without threats and/or deriding your critics as closed-minded. That's coming next.

Basically, simple concepts can be described in simple terms. Only bullshit requires meaningless drivel.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#38
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 6:50 pm)Thena323 Wrote: You LIE, citizen! There is no God.

But there is justice. I've seen the light, and basked in it's emerald effulgence.
Only those who take the oath and bear the ring know the true power of creation.

[Image: 442840bc653badbc869aec7906004b07--green-...nterns.jpg]

Yeah, but chuck a lemon at his head and he's fucked.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#39
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
(October 1, 2017 at 5:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Whether you believe the universe is the cause or God, you are created by every definition of the word created.

Unsupported assertion.  Show us physical evidence that we can test in a lab, not scripture.

Quote: There are verses talking about the one who originated us, or originated the universe, that is a different argument.

Unsupported assertion.  No evidence that the universe was originated by a sentient being.

Quote:Do you know you have value?

Yes, because I value myself.  It's nice when other people value me, but I do not consider it necessary that they do that.

Quote:Do you know morality to be guidance?

No, I see morality more as an internal assessment of whether or not it's appropriate to do something.

Quote:Write down all that love means to you.

No.  Nothing to be gained by such an exercise.  Talking about love, or writing about love, falls far short of just experiencing it.

Quote:All I am hoping by all these threads, is someone begins to reflect.

If we did (and perhaps some of us already have reflected), would you actually accept our conclusions if they didn't lead to your particular belief system?
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#40
RE: "What is the Lord of the Worlds?"
MK, if you need this belief to feel good about yourself and make sense out of your life that's OK by me. But don't expect me to give it any credence or validity. It's just a fantasy. The fact that you believe the fantasy is real makes it a delusion. 

At some point in the future your delusion won't be as readily accepted in society. If you push/force the delusion on others to hard, you may not be accepted in society now.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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