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Excuse your God
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RE: Excuse your God
(October 15, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Astreja Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: That is an important question. And again a reminder from God and it's interpreters best hold those answers.

No, that's an extremely poor method to use.  What you have done is created a self-referential loop, calling upon an alleged god to demonstrate that the god itself is real.  It could easily be no more than imagination, and traditions based upon imagination.

It can be, but that should not stop you from trying to find answers in case there is a clarification from God that will not only prove he exists, but who he is, and not only who he is, but how to know and continue in that knowledge.

I am not saying accept it and then blindly follow those answers. I am saying give it a good solid try and reflect.   There is no harm. You may leave it for a while, and then things might click.

But make notes, if you are wondering about a particular question, search for all things related to this question. Make notes on verses on the same theme. I know you can do it.
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#12
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When I have a question, MK, I do not look to religion for an answer. I also do not "make notes on verses on the same theme," as I have better things to do. I ask an expert (my doctor for a medical question, an accountant for a finance question, a lawyer for a legal question, and so on) and then take appropriate action.

I say again: I'm not looking for any spiritual answers, as I have no spiritual questions.
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#13
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(October 15, 2017 at 3:39 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To be reminded of God, you should seek a reminder from God, and it's founder, and his successors who are coupled with it, and their hearts understand it as it meant to be understood. You should recite the book and read their interpretation, then reflect on the words, perhaps what is obscure will become clear, and the clear explanation will convince you.

The backward approach is the best approach, although, you may think it's not.

If you don't know and there is proof of God,  it's because you probably haven't searched the cure from the right place.  And if there is a right place, it probably is God's own words to be interpreted by hearts free from the dark sorcery just yells irrationally to doubt in God.

I don't know if my words bring people closer to God or further them from him.

I am not chosen to preach or anything, I just wish the only valuable purpose we been founded upon becomes manifest to a few of you.

I don't know if all my efforts are in vain, or if someone will search the truth as a result and find it.

Do you get payed to say this crap ?
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#14
RE: Excuse your God
(October 15, 2017 at 3:39 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To be reminded of God, you should seek a reminder from God, and it's founder, and his successors who are coupled with it, and their hearts understand it as it meant to be understood. You should recite the book and read their interpretation, then reflect on the words, perhaps what is obscure will become clear, and the clear explanation will convince you.

The backward approach is the best approach, although, you may think it's not.

If you don't know and there is proof of God,  it's because you probably haven't searched the cure from the right place.  And if there is a right place, it probably is God's own words to be interpreted by hearts free from the dark sorcery just yells irrationally to doubt in God.

I don't know if my words bring people closer to God or further them from him.

I am not chosen to preach or anything, I just wish the only valuable purpose we been founded upon becomes manifest to a few of you.

I don't know if all my efforts are in vain, or if someone will search the truth as a result and find it.

Perhaps reality is far more than god belief/non-god-belief.  Does one actually gain a better understanding of reality if that understanding just confirms how that individual presently thinks? Perhaps the key to improving one's grasp of reality lies in his or her ability to grow beyond humanity's present thought patterns and to develop newer, more sophisticated/creative ways of thinking.











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#15
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(October 15, 2017 at 11:14 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Do you get payed to say this crap ?

If he does, whoever is paying for it should ask for their money back..
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#16
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Quote:Excuse your God

Why?  Did he fart?
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#17
RE: Excuse your God
(October 15, 2017 at 3:39 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To be reminded of God, you should seek a reminder from God, and it's founder, and his successors who are coupled with it, and their hearts understand it as it meant to be understood. You should recite the book and read their interpretation, then reflect on the words, perhaps what is obscure will become clear, and the clear explanation will convince you.

The backward approach is the best approach, although, you may think it's not.

If you don't know and there is proof of God,  it's because you probably haven't searched the cure from the right place.  And if there is a right place, it probably is God's own words to be interpreted by hearts free from the dark sorcery just yells irrationally to doubt in God.

I don't know if my words bring people closer to God or further them from him.

I am not chosen to preach or anything, I just wish the only valuable purpose we been founded upon becomes manifest to a few of you.

I don't know if all my efforts are in vain, or if someone will search the truth as a result and find it.

The OP asked for "peer-reviewed".  Do you understand what that is?  It is a scientific study that has been successfully replicated by other scientific studies using the same research parameters, then confirmed by experts in their specific scientific fields.  Your fantasies are so far from "peer reviewed" that there isn't even a comparison to be made.  Your assertions are the toddler's belief in Santa Claus.  The peer reviewed folks are the guys at the HLC who proved that the Higgs Boson exists.  Fantasy vs. fact.  Guess who wins?
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#18
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As usual mystic goes on a mad rant (insert word salad generator quote here)
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#19
RE: Excuse your God
(October 15, 2017 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 15, 2017 at 3:54 pm)Astreja Wrote: But what if the "reminder from God" is just a figment of our own or someone else's imagination?  How do we determine whether the founder and successors are authentic, or just deluded?

That is an important question. And again a reminder from God and it's interpreters best hold those answers.

You don't know it's true before knowing it's true. But giving different books a try, and one of them might hold all the answers you were looking for and more.

The search for wisdom is good no matter what.  There is no harm in seeking wisdom.

Unless you've already made up your mind that the wisdom comes from a god.  Then you have books and books of tripe that people call wisdom.  If you are wise enough, you see what a child's game religion really is.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#20
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(October 16, 2017 at 12:45 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Excuse your God

Why?  Did he fart?

No, just shits himself a lot, and then has his followers do a dirty protest around the world.
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