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"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
(October 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: You got your asses kicked by idiots.
Well considering we we're fighting British traitors and they knew British military tactics. As well as that factor of the bloody French causing more problems for the British so we couldn't send a full force and that our same old worn out line march tactic was useless in closed ground like forests and such. Such tactics only really worked in open fields. British traitors took advantage of that.
So really, it would of been more beneficial for Britain to just stick their too fingers up at the traitors and forget about them, than to get into a punch up with them.
No real loss anyway. Just look how you lot turned out.
There's no way we'd want north America back, not after what you've done to it.
Too many religious crazies.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
October 29, 2010 at 4:01 am (This post was last modified: October 29, 2010 at 4:39 am by Violet.)
(October 27, 2010 at 11:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, Sae, we declared war on them. Not one of our brighter moves.
Right up there with Iraq.
Really? Talk about the war I barely heard about in school :S
Maybe there's a reason for that? ^_^
Now I've got another war to look into so that I don't sound silly and misinformative :S
(October 27, 2010 at 11:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: Uhem, we won a battle in the boonies after the war is officially over, while they occupied Washington DC and burned it to the ground while the war was going on.
If nothing else... the americans kicked ass in the battle in the boonies ^_^
(October 28, 2010 at 3:41 am)theVOID Wrote:
(October 27, 2010 at 5:20 pm)Saerules Wrote: I rather don't understand the point of removing the letter i from the names of states. I don't have any particular love of them as it is... but it seems rather pointless to me. Aluminum doesn't need a second i, either.
You brits are superfluous.
Yeah but you have to say it ah-loo-mi-num and end up sounding like a complete twat in the process because it sounds like it could be a separate word, Aluminium is how all the cool people say it.
'ini'? Sad sound that. I've called a dog 'ini' plenty of times. Come on... that sounds Native... ie: "Iniininini!"
You're saying stately Englishmen use such cutesy little sounds? Maybe they aren't so stately as I thought they were.
(October 28, 2010 at 8:13 pm)Ace Wrote:
(October 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: You got your asses kicked by idiots.
Well considering we we're fighting British traitors and they knew British military tactics. As well as that factor of the bloody French causing more problems for the British so we couldn't send a full force and that our same old worn out line march tactic was useless in closed ground like forests and such. Such tactics only really worked in open fields. British traitors took advantage of that.
So really, it would of been more beneficial for Britain to just stick their too fingers up at the traitors and forget about them, than to get into a punch up with them.
No real loss anyway. Just look how you lot turned out.
There's no way we'd want north America back, not after what you've done to it.
Too many religious crazies.
No real loss? Having played many management games before, I know that it really fucking hurts to have wasted an army. Why the hell were they marching down that way anyways? Why not go around the forces dug in heavily from that side?
I learned a little song when I was a child. Went something like "Can't go over it. Can't go under it. Can't go around it. Got to go through it." I guess it was sung just a little too often to your generals of the time. While American troops are playing that little kid's game, thinking you'll play by their rules: go around them and raze their cities. And what the hell were you doing with an army inside our borders after the war has officially ended?
No wonder we revolted... and won Shame that our leadership seems to have inherited that stupidity from yours :'(
(October 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The Battle of New Orleans remains the most decisive defeat in British history.
Not to quibble on technicalities but you cannot have it be a "decisive" battle in a war that is already over.
Then why the hell did they say it? 0.o What would they possibly gain from lying about that? 0.o
Quote:One-sided defeat? Perhaps. Although Isandlwana was pretty one-sided as well.
Are the British on the losing side of all of these ridiculous defeats (where they are involved)?
October 29, 2010 at 6:52 am (This post was last modified: October 29, 2010 at 6:54 am by Ace Otana.)
You just had to make a lengthy reply didn't you?
Quote:No real loss? Having played many management games before, I know that it really fucking hurts to have wasted an army.
Someone has to lose. I'd rather lose, learn from my mistakes and move on than be on the winning side and constantly gloating about the victory. Anyway, you're not supposed to gloat, it don't look too good when you do. Especially if you are in need of help, people remember your gloating and may think twice about helping. No one likes a big mouth.
Quote: Why not go around the forces dug in heavily from that side?
Probably because the British had no fear and/or they had a reputation to maintain. No idea really.
Quote:No wonder we revolted... and won Shame that our leadership seems to have inherited that stupidity from yours
No, the bad leaders you have can't be pinned on us. Nor can your problem with religion.
BTW, I actually agree with the American rebellion. If I was around in that time period I would of done the same as you traitors. Who wants to pay really high taxes for a bastard of a king thousands of miles away? Though the high taxes was high so to pay for the empire. Empire's aren't cheap you know.
The only thing I dislike about America most is it's big mouth and big headedness. What I dislike about this country most is it's fucking leaders and corruption. I guess every nation has it's ups and downs though.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
(October 27, 2010 at 11:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, Sae, we declared war on them. Not one of our brighter moves.
Right up there with Iraq.
Really? Talk about the war I barely heard about in school :S
Maybe there's a reason for that? ^_^
Now I've got another war to look into so that I don't sound silly and misinformative :S
(October 27, 2010 at 11:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: Uhem, we won a battle in the boonies after the war is officially over, while they occupied Washington DC and burned it to the ground while the war was going on.
If nothing else... the americans kicked ass in the battle in the boonies ^_^
(October 28, 2010 at 3:41 am)theVOID Wrote:
(October 27, 2010 at 5:20 pm)Saerules Wrote: I rather don't understand the point of removing the letter i from the names of states. I don't have any particular love of them as it is... but it seems rather pointless to me. Aluminum doesn't need a second i, either.
You brits are superfluous.
Yeah but you have to say it ah-loo-mi-num and end up sounding like a complete twat in the process because it sounds like it could be a separate word, Aluminium is how all the cool people say it.
'ini'? Sad sound that. I've called a dog 'ini' plenty of times. Come on... that sounds Native... ie: "Iniininini!"
You're saying stately Englishmen use such cutesy little sounds? Maybe they aren't so stately as I thought they were.
(October 28, 2010 at 8:13 pm)Ace Wrote:
(October 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm)Saerules Wrote: You got your asses kicked by idiots.
Well considering we we're fighting British traitors and they knew British military tactics. As well as that factor of the bloody French causing more problems for the British so we couldn't send a full force and that our same old worn out line march tactic was useless in closed ground like forests and such. Such tactics only really worked in open fields. British traitors took advantage of that.
So really, it would of been more beneficial for Britain to just stick their too fingers up at the traitors and forget about them, than to get into a punch up with them.
No real loss anyway. Just look how you lot turned out.
There's no way we'd want north America back, not after what you've done to it.
Too many religious crazies.
No real loss? Having played many management games before, I know that it really fucking hurts to have wasted an army. Why the hell were they marching down that way anyways? Why not go around the forces dug in heavily from that side?
Quote:I learned a little song when I was a child. Went something like "Can't go over it. Can't go under it. Can't go around it. Got to go through it."
I guess it was sung just a little too often to your generals of the time. While American troops are playing that little kid's game, thinking you'll play by their rules: go around them and raze their cities. And what the hell were you doing with an army inside our borders after the war has officially ended?
No wonder we revolted... and won Shame that our leadership seems to have inherited that stupidity from yours :'(
(October 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The Battle of New Orleans remains the most decisive defeat in British history.
Not to quibble on technicalities but you cannot have it be a "decisive" battle in a war that is already over.
Then why the hell did they say it? 0.o What would they possibly gain from lying about that? 0.o
Quote:One-sided defeat? Perhaps. Although Isandlwana was pretty one-sided as well.
Are the British on the losing side of all of these ridiculous defeats (where they are involved)?
Quote:I learned a little song when I was a child. Went something like "Can't go over it. Can't go under it. Can't go around it. Got to go through it."
Here you go Sae, I think you'll like this song too...
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"
Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
(October 27, 2010 at 6:12 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Now go put your red coat away, it's over.
*shakes fist and shouts at the heavens*
IT'LL NEVER BE OVER!!!
Fine then! Me and you: we fight to the death!
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. " Martin Luther King, Jr.
October 29, 2010 at 5:56 pm (This post was last modified: October 29, 2010 at 6:12 pm by Anomalocaris.)
I would think the defeat by Japanese in the Malayan/Indian Ocean campaign to be easily the worst military diseaster ever suffered by Britain. Over 140,000 troops killed or captured, main base in the largest ocean of the world surrendered, newest battleship along with 1 carrier, 1 battlecruiser, several cruisers and many other warships sunk, hundreds of thousands of tons of merchant shipping gone, Royal Navy retreated to Madagascar, Crown jewel colony of India put under dire threat, Britain effectively expelled from the Pacific campaign and permanently discredited as a colonial power in South and Southeast Asia.
In fact I can't think of another case where britian was sent reeling from so large an area that was vital to its interests, nor had britain suffered such losses in the process. Compare to this Market Garden was a pin prick, and defeats in Isandlwana or near New Orlean not even worth mentioning. This is a scale of defeat that precipitates fall of empires. Were it not for the USN distracting the Japanese, there would have been nothing stopping the Japanese from taking control of all of Indian Ocean, severeing all communication with India and Australia, and opening a new land front in the middleeast, cordinating with Rommel, and knock the British out of the war in few more months.