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What is your opinion about Communism?
#31
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
Watch Animal Farm.
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#32
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 11:56 am)Hammy Wrote: Watch Animal Farm.
Or any other good work of fiction.
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#33
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
Before anyone gets too uppity for democracy remember the founding fathers had a dim view of it.


Quote:Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

John Adams

And "capitalism" is not a form of government..... much as the republicunts do not seem to understand that.
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#34
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 11:56 am)Hammy Wrote: Watch Animal Farm.

That and Orwell's 1984 were warnings, but the GOP took them as a playbook.
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#35
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 10:44 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think there's any denying that Democracy is obviously much better than communism, come on...

Communism is an economic system.  Democracy is a governance structure.

Furthermore, communism can have different meanings.

The classical communism as espoused by Karl Marx was envisioned by Marx to require a full democracy that is sufficiently educated and informed as to function properly.   Implicitly “class enemies” are done away with.  It was also envisioned to be something that could only be attained in a highly industrialized, universally highly educated society with a large surplus of productive capacity and resources to facilitate an extremely wealthy socialism, perhaps a radical version of Nordic socialism seen in Scandinavian countries.

What you think of as communism is Leninism. Leninism professes to pursue Marxist communism as the goal, but repudiates much of the prerequisites and practices explicitly spelled out by Marx. This was model adopted by the Soviet Union and followed to the end, adopted by China but them largely abandoned in practice following the death of Mao, and adopted by North Korea, still followed in practice but repudiated in theory by Kim following the fall of USSR in the 1990s. Lenin believed the end goal Marx envisioned can be forced upon poor, underdeveloped societies by a cadre of enlightened by ruthless dictators such as, not surprisingly, himself.
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#36
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 23, 2017 at 11:56 am)Hammy Wrote: Watch Animal Farm.

That and Orwell's 1984 were warnings, but the GOP took them as a playbook.

Was 1984 ever made into a movie? Because I usually don't have great enough attention span to read through a whole nove - ooh what's that shiny thing!
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#37
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 11:53 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 23, 2017 at 11:36 am)pool the matey Wrote: 😁 yeah that's the one GS you grammar nazi 😜😘

Oddly enough, it's the reverse in the US.

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of other things are the very opposite here vs US as well. For example, I've heard jokes about how American women buy a lot of shoes but here it's the men that buy a lot of shoes, I have only 2 pairs of shoes, a black canvas and a boot but most of my friends own upwards of 6 pairs of shoes. Women don't wear makeup, men are often the gold diggers and other things. It's interesting to notice some of the polar opposite stereotypes here compared to US.
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#38
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 11:35 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(November 23, 2017 at 7:15 am)Sal Wrote: Good on paper, bad in practice.

Name me one "ism" that isn't.

Naturalism?
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#39
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Hammy Wrote:
(November 23, 2017 at 11:35 am)Minimalist Wrote: Name me one "ism" that isn't.

Naturalism?

Nudism.
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#40
RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
(November 23, 2017 at 12:24 pm)pool the matey Wrote:
(November 23, 2017 at 11:53 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Oddly enough, it's the reverse in the US.

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of other things are the very opposite here vs US as well. For example, I've heard jokes about how American women buy a lot of shoes but here it's the men that buy a lot of shoes, I have only 2 pairs of shoes, a black canvas and a boot but most of my friends own upwards of 6 pairs of shoes. Women don't wear makeup, men are often the gold diggers and other things. It's interesting to notice some of the polar opposite stereotypes here compared to US.

And in both countries the outliers are the ones that are held up as examples of the whole population.
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