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[AFTT47]

It doesn't have to keep restarting.  We don't know whether it ever needed to restart even once.  The catastrophies which we have evidence for life surviving presented no condition which some life that currently exists on earth can not be demonstrated in the laboratory to be capable of surviving.

You seem to exhibit an unseemingly eagerness to latch onto out of context sound bite that can misinterpreted to make evolution sound to people of a similar biase as you to be less plausible.

Not true! Similar biase? Please tell me who that is! Don't bother! I am an intellect yes, a comedian yes. But, I am also a sponge! Right now I am communicating with you because you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY smarter then me! We only established a thought of continuous disaster. Therefore, how evolution? I have need to be YOUR student. Yet, we can't ignore the continuous disasters if we wish to but things in a geological correct context, whatever that is.

The bible itself has zero conflict with what you have said--NONE! How could it! Does understanding what the bible says make me smart? Or, does it make me curious? The bible says that if I make the companion of fools, I will be a fool! I would rather be befriended by you, because your not a fool, then a thousand clergy, whom are fools!

You are an interesting one. I don't have a good feel yet of where you're coming from. I hope you stick around,

I too recognize that Anomalocaris is one smart cookie. I think of myself as pretty smart compared to the average person but I recognize my better there. No shame in that. As Quigon Jinn (or whatever to hell his name was) said in, "The Phantom Menace", "There is always a bigger fish." Such a pearl of wisdom.

I think I may be able to help you with your problem with evolution: The universe doesn't care whether or not you or I (or anyone else) can understand it or intuit it. Our limitations do not dictate what is real or unreal. The beauty of science is that it takes that personal bias out of the loop by including others (peer review) in the conversation. You see, we all have different strengths and weaknesses. Where you or I may have our judgement clouded by our own personal biases, there will always be others who can look at the problem more objectively because they don't have the same emotional investment we do.

Science is dispassionate and it can be cruel. It cuts away the bullshit without regard to who's feelings will be hurt. Evolution has been looked at and tested literally thousands of times and has never come up short. It is right up there with General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics as theories which have withstood so much challenge over such a period of time that it's only a principle of the scientific method that they are not called, The Law of Evolution, The Law or Relativity and The Law of Quantum Mechanics.

If you have a problem with evolution, you have a problem with reality. You need to get straight with that before addressing the existence/non-existence of God. We can argue about the latter but the former is a done deal. If you deny evolution, you are in the wrong place. You may as well be on a "Flat Earth" message forum.

[Haipule]

Not true! Similar biase? Please tell me who that is! Don't bother! I am an intellect yes, a comedian yes. But, I am also a sponge! Right now I am communicating with you because you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY smarter then me! We only established a thought of continuous disaster. Therefore, how evolution? I have need to be YOUR student. Yet, we can't ignore the continuous disasters if we wish to but things in a geological correct context, whatever that is.

The bible itself has zero conflict with what you have said--NONE! How could it! Does understanding what the bible says make me smart? Or, does it make me curious? The bible says that if I make the companion of fools, I will be a fool! I would rather be befriended by you, because your not a fool, then a thousand clergy, whom are fools!

You are an interesting one. I don't have a good feel yet of where you're coming from. I hope you stick around,

I too recognize that Anomalocaris is one smart cookie. I think of myself as pretty smart compared to the average person but I recognize my better there. No shame in that. As Quigon Jinn (or whatever to hell his name was) said in, "The Phantom Menace", "There is always a bigger fish." Such a pearl of wisdom.

I think I may be able to help you with your problem with evolution: The universe doesn't care whether or not you or I (or anyone else) can understand it or intuit it. Our limitations do not dictate what is real or unreal. The beauty of science is that it takes that personal bias out of the loop by including others (peer review) in the conversation. You see, we all have different strengths and weaknesses. Where you or I may have our judgement clouded by our own personal biases, there will always be others who can look at the problem more objectively because they don't have the same emotional investment we do.

Science is dispassionate and it can be cruel. It cuts away the bullshit without regard to who's feelings will be hurt. Evolution has been looked at and tested literally thousands of times and has never come up short. It is right up there with General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics as theories which have withstood so much challenge over such a period of time that it's only a principle of the scientific method that they are not called, The Law of Evolution, The Law or Relativity and The Law of Quantum Mechanics.

If you have a problem with evolution, you have a problem with reality. You need to get straight with that before addressing the existence/non-existence of God. We can argue about the latter but the former is a done deal. If you deny evolution, you  are in the wrong place. You may as well be on a "Flat Earth" message forum.

Thank you! Quantum Mechanics is the FUNNEST toy in the universe to play with! I make zero point toys and watch what it does. It is sooo cool! Zero point loves geometry(especially right triangles), aluminum, copper, gold and, believe it or not, sea water and dead trees! It DOES have the ability to communicate! Do you have any idea how weird that is! Zero point has an intellect! Yet, it does not rationalize. It only knows! It's kinda like talking to Spock!

I have made so many discoveries but, am extremely reluctant to show. It's kinda a Noble thing who invented dynamite to help people and others used it to kill man. Zero point is extremely powerful even to WMD yet, completely safe.

I've been doing these experiments for a year or so, and am just getting warmed up. This is the funny thing, when I make a device, and watch it work, I dismantle the device and can simply tell it to do it with out the device! All my devices are locked in a vault thousands of miles from me. I'm currently making a toy that will be an energy vortice. What am I hoping for? Shit! I don't know, maybe time travel?! Nothing appears impossible!

Yet, I could not have done anything until I minutely dissected the bible into it's proper grammatical inflection. I needed to get out of the prison of theology first!

I don't have a problem with evolution! Just the way it is taught! We can never be smarter than Sir Isaac Newton by reading his books! However, we can be smarter than him and Maxwell and Einstein and Tesla combined!

My "opinion": macroevolution existed ONLY before Snowball Earth, which killed EVERYTHING and had NOTHING to do with God except the snowball! Evidence suggests that everything died during the snow ball period Yet, evolution says that that is impossible because we are here! That is LAME!

After snowball is Adam and Eve with no macroevolution since the events of the Angels in Genesis 6 where even Pan is possible! If the Angels were up to something first, then yeah, they can cross a superfish and a superherding animal and call it a dolphin(which could not be destroyed by a universal flood), goat with a man and call it Pan, a Hawaiian plant with a bug and make a freaking weird ass spider! Or, all the freaks that were hidden exist and have existed in Australia! Something happened there that evolution can explain but, cannot reason. Same in Hawaii which ain't so old. Why do we find so many fossils of extinct birds that man never saw! Well, they didn't fly here and no time for "evolution". What the fuck!

[Jehanne]

The previous post reads like a spoof.

[Haipule]

The previous post reads like a spoof.

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The previous post reads like a spoof.

I've been called many things but never a "spoof".

[LostLocke]

If we look at "snowball" earth theory to explain the observed science, then many scientists have hypothesized that nothing could have survived except that which lay dormant in the ice such as seeds. Other scientists say that that is impossible because we are here. But that hypotheses ignores observed evidence.

Yet, snowball earth is very recent geologic history

OK, to start, Snowball Earth was about 600 million years ago.
Geologically recent? Yes. Biologically recent? No.

Seeds wouldn't have existed at that time. Multi-cellular life was devoloping in the oceans, which would still be present under the ice.
I'd like to know which scientists are talking about seeds in ice 600 mya.

[Haipule]

If we look at "snowball" earth theory to explain the observed science, then many scientists have hypothesized that nothing could have survived except that which lay dormant in the ice such as seeds. Other scientists say that that is impossible because we are here. But that hypotheses ignores observed evidence.

Yet, snowball earth is very recent geologic history

OK, to start, Snowball Earth was about 600 million years ago.
Geologically recent? Yes. Biologically recent? No.

Seeds wouldn't have existed at that time. Multi-cellular life was devoloping in the oceans, which would still be present under the ice.
I'd like to know which scientists are talking about seeds in ice 600 mya.

600 mya? That is arguable--not by me. But, I read a study of Northern California trees which grew some 10,000 years ago and then for 1000yrs stopped growing and then started growing again. It was a tree ring study. I extrapolated that seeds then can lay dormant in the ice assuming it was the ice that caused them to stop growing in the first place. Sorry, I read the study many years ago and can give no reference.

I read it before I ever heard of Snowball Earth and assumed it was referring to the events of Genesis 1:2  where the Earth was encapsulated in ice about some 10,000 years ago. Sorry, not very scientific.

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If we combine Snowball Earth with another pseudoscience, "Expanding Earth". Snowball occurred first so there were no oceans before the expansion.

Some have said to me that if there was a universal flood then where did all that water go? I ask them if they live in Kansas?

I'm a surfer and have flown over vast amounts of water. All I see is ocean! However, if we read about the events of the flood, how the water came from below the earth and a lens of water came down, then that water would go back into the ground and cause it to expand and give us plate tectonics.

Expanding Earth enthusiats take out the oceans and put the much smaller earth back together again that would have been less gravitational. Do that and put a pin in all the known diamond deposits. You will see a pattern--Just saying!

The lens of water above would have acted like a hyperbaric chamber by which those indifferent growing lizards would have lived long (as well as man) and be quite large. They were too big and could not have lived in our current gravity--Just saying!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

600 mya? That is arguable--not by me. But, I read a study of Northern California trees which grew some 10,000 years ago and then for 1000yrs stopped growing and then started growing again. It was a tree ring study. I extrapolated that seeds then can lay dormant in the ice assuming it was the ice that caused them to stop growing in the first place. Sorry, I read the study many years ago and can give no reference.

Doesn't work. The trees grow a new ring each year, but if they died in a snowball Earth they wouldn't grow any rings. A tree wouldn't restart after a few thousand years in the ice, it would be dead.

[Haipule]

600 mya? That is arguable--not by me. But, I read a study of Northern California trees which grew some 10,000 years ago and then for 1000yrs stopped growing and then started growing again. It was a tree ring study. I extrapolated that seeds then can lay dormant in the ice assuming it was the ice that caused them to stop growing in the first place. Sorry, I read the study many years ago and can give no reference.

Doesn't work. The trees grow a new ring each year, but if they died in a snowball Earth they wouldn't grow any rings. A tree wouldn't restart after a few thousand years in the ice, it would be dead.

Well, friend, restart they did! After the ice! That was the point of the observation! They did, then they didn't!
1,000 year observed span between the rings! Hummm?

Your either too old and useless in your arrogant intelligence! Or, too young and stupid to know what the HELL fucking your talking about! I prefer to be the stupid so that I will always be teachable!

FUCK!!! I never wanted to be a FUCKING philosopher!

[Silver]

FUCK!!! I never wanted to be a FUCKING philosopher!

Good thing you're not.

[Fireball]

Doesn't work. The trees grow a new ring each year, but if they died in a snowball Earth they wouldn't grow any rings. A tree wouldn't restart after a few thousand years in the ice, it would be dead.

Well, friend, restart they did! After the ice! That was the point of the observation! They did, then they didn't!
1,000 year observed span between the rings! Hummm?

Your either too old and useless in your arrogant intelligence! Or, too young and stupid to know what the HELL fucking your talking about! I prefer to be the stupid so that I will always be teachable!

FUCK!!! I never wanted to be a FUCKING philosopher!

Yeeeaaahhh, I don't think that you are in any danger of that.