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Just finished both episode 1 and 2. Both were engaging episodes for me, each interesting in their own way.
Episode 1: I thought the main guy was a pathetic character, and was pleased that the episode didn't end in a sadistic manner where he ended up triumphing over his victims. Also, subtle message on fight for gender equality noted.
Episode 2: Mother just couldn't quit, which was saddening. But hard to blame her when she just didn't know any better.
Just finished it this week. I liked it a bit less than the other seasons. The second and last episodes were my favorites. But the best one of the series is still season one episode two for me.
Another sad episode. This mother did way worse than the one in the previous episode. The car accident victim at the beginning wasn't her fault, and I can sort of understand what was in her mind when she didn't end up calling the police (for the sake of her partner at the time). But after some years, she has a family (husband and son), and builds up a reputation as a great architect of communities. So when the previous partner ends up visiting her in a hotel room to let her know that he was finally planning to tell the truth about what happened at that time, she pleads for him to stay quiet and (when he refused to give in) choked him to death. Then it spiraled downwards after that, and she ends up also murdering an investigator, then the investigator's husband, and their baby (probably out of mercy). Then after police show up to a public place where she happened to be, the episode ends and we're left hanging, wondering if the police were after her or not.
Tragic episode, not sure what to think about the woman. She killed a number of people to keep her reputation intact, but there is no way she could live life like that forever, knowing she is able to feel guilt and shame. If only she called the police the first time to confess rather than live such a torturing life and end up killing other people to protect herself.
(January 13, 2018 at 9:57 am)Longhorn Wrote: I got major Lady Macbeth vibes from that one.
Never seen that one, but it's not an uncommon theme really. Unfaithful had a bit of that. So did some other movies I've watched (but can't remember their titles).
January 13, 2018 at 10:19 am (This post was last modified: January 13, 2018 at 11:29 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(January 13, 2018 at 9:52 am)Grandizer Wrote: Episode 3
Another sad episode. This mother did way worse than the one in the previous episode. The car accident victim at the beginning wasn't her fault, and I can sort of understand what was in her mind when she didn't end up calling the police (for the sake of her partner at the time). But after some years, she has a family (husband and son), and builds up a reputation as a great architect of communities. So when the previous partner ends up visiting her in a hotel room to let her know that he was finally planning to tell the truth about what happened at that time, she pleads for him to stay quiet and (when he refused to give in) choked him to death. Then it spiraled downwards after that, and she ends up also murdering an investigator, then the investigator's husband, and their baby (probably out of mercy). Then after police show up to a public place where she happened to be, the episode ends and we're left hanging, wondering if the police were after her or not.
Tragic episode, not sure what to think about the woman. She killed a number of people to keep her reputation intact, but there is no way she could live life like that forever, knowing she is able to feel guilt and shame. If only she called the police the first time to confess rather than live such a torturing life and end up killing other people to protect herself.
LOL... You should watch the episode again. I don't think you quite got all of it.
The woman didn't kill the child, "out of mercy". You're forgetting, that the main sci-fi technology of the episode is the ability to read visual memories directly from a brain. She thought the child saw her, which meant the police could identify her, just like the investigator did earlier. She killed in order to protect herself, because she's clearly a psychopath. The tears she cries are supposed to be "crocodile tears", hence the title of the episode.
What she didn't know was, that the child was blind (which I found a bit "on the nose", but whatever), so she would have been safe. However, while murdering the kid, she was most likely seen by a pet guinea pig, which was kept in that room and which the police got hold of and took in to "read", at the end of the episode.
So, yeah - the police were almost definitely after her. She wasn't in a random place - she was at her kid's school, watching a school-play with her husband. Not to mention, that in a future, where people can read minds, determining someone's location must be fairly easy. It's pretty easy now, thanks to people constantly updating their social media.
(January 13, 2018 at 10:04 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 9:57 am)Longhorn Wrote: I got major Lady Macbeth vibes from that one.
Never seen that one,[...]
Kids, these days...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
January 13, 2018 at 11:37 am (This post was last modified: January 13, 2018 at 12:26 pm by GrandizerII.)
(January 13, 2018 at 10:19 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(January 13, 2018 at 9:52 am)Grandizer Wrote: Episode 3
Another sad episode. This mother did way worse than the one in the previous episode. The car accident victim at the beginning wasn't her fault, and I can sort of understand what was in her mind when she didn't end up calling the police (for the sake of her partner at the time). But after some years, she has a family (husband and son), and builds up a reputation as a great architect of communities. So when the previous partner ends up visiting her in a hotel room to let her know that he was finally planning to tell the truth about what happened at that time, she pleads for him to stay quiet and (when he refused to give in) choked him to death. Then it spiraled downwards after that, and she ends up also murdering an investigator, then the investigator's husband, and their baby (probably out of mercy). Then after police show up to a public place where she happened to be, the episode ends and we're left hanging, wondering if the police were after her or not.
Tragic episode, not sure what to think about the woman. She killed a number of people to keep her reputation intact, but there is no way she could live life like that forever, knowing she is able to feel guilt and shame. If only she called the police the first time to confess rather than live such a torturing life and end up killing other people to protect herself.
LOL... You should watch the episode again. I don't think you quite got all of it.
The woman didn't kill the child, "out of mercy". You're forgetting, that the main sci-fi technology of the episode is the ability to read visual memories directly from a brain. She thought the child saw her, which meant the police could identify her, just like the investigator did earlier. She killed, in order to protect herself, because she's clearly a psychopath. The tears she cries are supposed to be "crocodile tears", hence the title of the episode.
What she didn't know was, that the child was blind (which I found a bit "on the nose", but whatever), so she would have been safe. However, while murdering the kid, she was most likely seen by a pet guinea pig, which was kept in that room and which the police got hold of and took in to "read", at the end of the episode.
So, yeah - the police were almost definitely after her. She wasn't in a random place - she was at her kid's school, watching a school-play with her husband. Not to mention, that in the future, were people can read minds, determining someone's location must be fairly easy. It's pretty easy now, thanks to people constantly updating their social media.
I see why they brought up the blind part now. Thought this only worked on adult humans (not babies or animals). Makes sense now ... uh ... sort of.
You say she's a psychopath and her tears were crocodile tears. Are you saying she was trying to fool the audience (us) into having sympathy with her then? If she is a psychopath, I don't see why she would be feeling any guilt or shame (as she explicitly said at one point) and cry tears when on her own (unless I misremembered this part and she only cried in order to manipulate people in front of her).
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(January 13, 2018 at 10:04 am)Grandizer Wrote: Never seen that one,[...]
Kids, these days...
lol, read, watch, classic fiction, popular phrase, whatever.
Episode 4
Neat episode. I didn't quite get what was going on exactly. Something to do with Simulation Theory. Prob explains why the System was so shit at matchmaking. It was all an experiment.
January 13, 2018 at 12:29 pm (This post was last modified: January 13, 2018 at 12:30 pm by Homeless Nutter.)
(January 13, 2018 at 11:37 am)Grandizer Wrote:
I see why they brought up the blind part now. Thought this only worked on adult humans (not babies or animals). Makes sense now ... uh ... sort of.
You say she's a psychopath and her tears were crocodile tears. Are you saying she was trying to fool the audience (us) into having sympathy with her then? If she is a psychopath, I don't see why she would be feeling any guilt or shame (as she explicitly said at one point) and cry tears when on her own (unless I misremembered this part and she only cried in order to manipulate people in front of her).
Tears don't have to be a sign of guilt or shame. She could have cried out of fear, or pity for herself. Whether or not she gets caught - her life will never be the same again and she knows it. Even if she gets away with all the murders, she will live the rest of her life in fear of being found out. That's a huge drop in quality of life.
Although maybe she's not a psychopath, but a sociopath. She may have a conscience, but it's weak and can't stop her from committing increasingly horrific acts in order to protect herself, even if those acts traumatize her. In either case - I think she's probably feeling sorry mostly for herself.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
An episode with a post-apocalyptic theme to it. Dog was evil but cute. Predicted halfway through that a swarm of dogs were going to appear at the end, but didn't expect the lady to kill herself. And turns out the whole mission was for naught. Interestingly, the box they were after had white teddy bears (reminds me of the white bear in season 2). So they were after teddy bears for the lady's nephew? Or perhaps they're symbolic or just easter eggs, hell should I know. Anyway, ok episode, wasn't boring like the other post-apocalyptic episode in season 3.
Kids, these days...
