Testosterone

[CapnAwesome]

I wanted to read more regarding the production of sexual hormones, and the roles of men and women which the religions of Abraham gave.
The link is that, hormones and their details are science. So; if the religious sentence match the scientific discovery, then yay !

Look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_mot...d_hormones

It is also suggested that levels of testosterone are related to the type of relationship in which one is involved. Men involved in polyamorous relationships display higher levels of testosterone than men involved in either a single partner relationship or single men.[6] Polyamorous women have both higher levels of testosterone and score higher on measures of sexual desire than women who are single or women who are in single-partner relationships.[6]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_motivation_and_hormones#cite_note-anders-6][/url]
It is a direct breaking for the Christian concept of a single wife. So the Church contributed for centuries, in the destruction of men by lowering their testosterone  levels by forcing the "single wife" culture. Moreover; if we considered this culture to be a "European thing"; we can also say that Europe with the help of the Church, managed to destroy so many lives with its "hormone killing actions".

Hormones; especially sexual hormones, are vital to the survival of our society.
That is a scientific proof now, that multiple marriages -which were allowed in the Quran 1400 years ago- are actually called "polyamorous" by modern non-believing humans that many of them don't seem to agree, that a nomad in the desert, knew this fact 10 centuries before them.

Lack of Testosterone cause this:

https://www.healthline.com/health/low-te...ning-signs

Personally; I think it's quite miraculous that Mohammed and Abraham knew all of this thousands of years ago. I mean time went forth; to come back and say that multiple partners actually help Testosterone to be produced; reducing Fatigue, Low muscle mass, fat.

But it's fine; because the elites are demonizing Muslims, and judge their religion for calling "polyamorous" with what it is: mating with more than one partner.

What more to be discovered; I wonder?

Polygamy has done irreparable harm to Africa and the Middle East. It only works if there are magically 4 women for everyman. What you have instead is an excess of single, angry, horny young men told they have to be married to get off, when a bunch of gross old fuckers have multiple wives.

What do you think happens to a society with an excess of horny young angry men? Kind of explains some things about the chaos in the middle east, and Africa. Doesn't it?

How come Muhammad (who broke his own polygamy laws) didn't see that super obvious one coming?

[polymath257]

And what about women that want multiple partners? Are we ignoring them?

[chimp3]

And what about women that want multiple partners? Are we ignoring them?

Of course! The very stitching of the universe will come unraveled if women express themselves sexually! 

[polymath257]

Maybe the universe needs to be unstitched a bit.

For someone that just realized that women can orgasm, this guy seems to think he knows a lot about sexuality.

[chimp3]

Maybe the universe needs to be unstitched a bit.

For someone that just realized that women can orgasm, this guy seems to think he knows a lot about sexuality.

A personal anecdote. Circa 1980's. My first wife and I were traveling in our converted school bus, hippy styly! We were camped in the Bay Area. Our camp neighbors were a patriarchal man with a long grey beard and two women. Their license plate was from Utah!  One white woman and one Lakota woman. (My ex was half Black / Muskogee.) One day we had the "patriarch" over for lunch. He told us the two women were his wives. The next morning the Lakota woman was over for coffee. My ex and her were talking about Indian identity and mixed race identity. Very interesting conversation. Then my wife asked her what it was like to be married to a man with two wives. The conversation wad short and to the point:

"Did he tell you he has two wives?"

"Yes!"

"Son of a bitch! He is my husband and she is MY wife!"

She stormed out of our bus and could hear her reading him the riot act for hours. He was quite sheepish after that. Sexual liberation is so fascinating! What a beautiful world this could be!

[paulpablo]

1) Picking out actual scientific discoveries then looking at a religion you believe in to try and scramble together some common ground is always a bad idea. You can do it with anything, you can say the Simpsons predicts the future. 

2) The claim is that people in polyamorous have more testosterone than people who aren't in those relationships.  The difference might be insignificant, the difference might be detrimental to the people with more testosterone.  
Having too much or too little testosterone will be negative.  Someone making a claim just as stupid as yours could say polyamorous relationships are bad because they cause increased testosterone, and providing a list of that happens when you have too much testosterone.  

3)  It's more likely that the higher testosterone has caused a higher sex drive, more aggressive, riskier behavior resulting in a sex life with multiple partners, rather than a sex life with multiple partners causing a person to have higher testosterone.

[chimp3]

Testosterone has certainly contributed to most of the rapes and wars in history!

[WinterHold]

Still; science literally said:

1-Multiple partners make testosterone be produced more in men; protecting them from modern-age defects like hair loss, increased fat levels and weak bone mass.

2-Islam allowed males to marry multiple partners in the case of fearing not to be just to orphans
 
3-Modern culture and European culture -influenced by the orders of the Church- contributed strongly in the destruction of men via taking off their natural rights, and mess up their testosterone producing levels.

Nobody has the right to damage people like this, through the manipulation of culture and the forcing of wrong culture on people.

[paulpablo]

Still; science literally said:

1-Multiple partners make testosterone be produced more in men; protecting them from modern-age defects like hair loss, increased fat levels and weak bone mass.

2-Islam allowed males to marry multiple partners in the case of fearing not to be just to orphans
 
3-Modern culture and European culture -influenced by the orders of the Church- contributed strongly in the destruction of men via taking off their natural rights, and mess up their testosterone producing levels.

Nobody has the right to damage people like this, through the manipulation of culture and the forcing of wrong culture on people.

The page you have shown says higher levels of testosterone are found in men with multiple partners than those that don't have multiple partners.  Not that the multiple partners are the cause of that additional testosterone. 

You have taken something from it that's fairly illogical from what I can tell.

Your logic seems to be like someone saying if you play pro basketball it will make you be better at being tall.

I said previously, it seems to me that you'd find higher testosterone in people who have multiple partners because people with higher testosterone have a higher sex drive, increased chance of risky behavior and aggression.  It seems logical that would result in more sexual partners.

[Seraphina]

Ah, testosterone. The hormone typically present in higher levels in males and is the base of machismo, aggression and dominance.

And yet we women get called "hormonal".

-Teresa