Why, God? Why?!

[The Grand Nudger]

Ok, so It's a no then... got it.

OFC it is, lol?  In what universe do you expect a loving parent to entertain the idea of killing their kids? 

So by knowing that your kid would be responsible for 68 million deaths, by doing nothing their blood is on your hands.

-but not the blood of my kids.  This is where the other foot falls.  You never believed your own bullshit..but you're content to imply that I'm a monster for not killing my kid. So what, I'm a parent...that's how we roll.

Now in comparison to God, did he not love the world so much that he sacrificed his only begotten Son? You made it, clear that if you were God you'd save your kid and sacrifice untold trillions.

So god isn't at all like a parent, and I wasn't "made in his image", and his reasons are noticeably different from my reasons.

Yay, I win another thing.  Christ..you're a moron.

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....and what have we learned?  That you think mountains of nameless people were Stalins lying in wait, and that you'd grab a piece of cheese even if it shocked the shit out of you, twice.  

I guess now I get to ask a question.  Were -you- made in god's image....because that would explain a hell of alot.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Why would I kill my kid, Huggs....are you really going to castigate me for being unwilling to do so, regardless of who my kid was?  You can't be so clueless as to imagine that you'll ever win the "parent's love" argument by insisting that under some circumstance I should kill my kid..either directly or indirectly?

You;re the one that just finished telling us that we were created in gods image, and further that gods's reasons were like any parent's reasons.   Well..I wont kill my kids, because I love them.  Now, have fun telling me all of the ways that god is different and that you were wrong.

Do all of my work for me...again.

Ok, so It's a no then... got it.

So by knowing that your kid would be responsible for 68 million deaths, by doing nothing their blood is on your hands.

Now in comparison to God, did he not love the world so much that he sacrificed his only begotten Son? You made it, clear that if you were God you'd save your kid and sacrifice untold trillions.

If I could know the future I would rather know the winning lottery numbers and such things as that.

[Huggy Bear]

Ok, so It's a no then... got it.

OFC it is, lol?  In what universe do you expect a loving parent to entertain the idea of killing their kids? 

When your kid becomes a threat to the rest of humanity... Apparently your love only extends to your kid, and not your fellow human beings.

So by knowing that your kid would be responsible for 68 million deaths, by doing nothing their blood is on your hands.

-but not the blood of my kids.  This is where the other foot falls.  You never believed your own bullshit..but you're content to imply that I'm a monster for not killing my kid. So what, I'm a parent...that's how we roll.

What makes you a monster is your disregard for 68 million lives...

screw them as long as YOUR kid who will be responsible for their demise is ok.

Now in comparison to God, did he not love the world so much that he sacrificed his only begotten Son? You made it, clear that if you were God you'd save your kid and sacrifice untold trillions.

So god isn't at all like a parent, and I wasn't "made in his image", and his reasons are noticeably different from my reasons.

Yay, I win another thing.  Christ..you're a moron.

No, Gods love extends to everyone, NOT just his kid. So if the sacrifice of his only son would save humanity, he'd do it. You on the other hand would sacrifice humanity to save your kid... nope, nothing monsterish about that at...all...

[Amarok]

Yeah because the only way god could prevent Stalin was by killing children . So he's vastly worst . Oh and if were playing this game then god do to his countless choices to not act is responsible for every death every act of evil ever committed .

[Whateverist]

That is definitely not my belief. God does not experience all points in time simultaneously. Quite the contrary. Before the universe: timeless, since the moment of creation: temporal. Given that, there is no logical contradiction in God having a relationship with someone or experiencing desires.

SteveII, I have a problem with any suggestion that God is subject to change. Being fully actualized God's state is in complete satisfaction of His will. For God there can be no before state of unfulfilled desire.

That highlights an apparent problem to which I think Lady Camus points. Does the act of creation in some way complete God, implying a lack of self-sufficiency?

I'll never understand how you know so much about that which is so far beyond your understanding.

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I can't remember the last time I drowned any of my kids..or ordered one to kill the other.

What kind of parent are you?  Obviously not a holy one.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Huggy vs. Khemical = thread ruined.

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, you're welcome.

[possibletarian]

I have a question for our Christians:  Why did God create people?   Further, why did he create anything at all?

So you could write this post.. obviously

[Catholic_Lady]

I have a question for our Christians:  Why did God create people?   Further, why did he create anything at all?

Good questions. 

Why do we desire friendship, spouses? How about the desire to have children? I think it is because relationships add a specific kind of value to the lives of both people. There is joy when the other person succeeds, there is a desire to help when the other is in needs, there is greater satisfaction in shared experiences, there is comfort when there is tragedy, and there is a feeling of peacefulness when everything is good between two people.

I think God created us for those and similar reasons: An eternal relationship has value both to us and to God.

This was great, Steve! It makes perfect sense, too.

[Amarok]

Nope it makes no sense at all . Attempts to compare human relationships . To Christanities cosmic psychopath is absurd .