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Just had my first proper lucid dream
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
(February 16, 2018 at 9:52 am)Grandizer Wrote: I know this is about lucid dreaming specifically, but can anyone relate to the following experiences in their dreams?

Walking outside barefooted or naked, with nobody giving a damn, but you feeling embarrassed.

Uncontrollably bouncing/floating high up and then skydiving down repeatedly (this was always terrifying for me)

Randomly running at a very high speed (like Flash himself) uncontrollably, and hoping you not hit something hard in your path.

Trying to run from some vague creepy form of a monster that you don't always see but you feel its presence, and either feeling too crippled to run or running in a very sluggish way.

As a little kid: Seeing an evil clone of your own mother, or your own mother abandoning you and going on about her life without you

Not really... mine aren't that exciting Wink I'm not really one for reading too much into dreams though... though I think there maybe some symbolism involved, ultimately I think the best explanation for a dream is whatever film you were watching last night Wink

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(February 16, 2018 at 9:52 am)emjay Wrote: Did you have control in that dream? I've never been entirely sure what the 'lucid' in lucid dreaming refers to... whether it just refers to the vividness of the dream, or the state of conscious control you have over it. Vivid dreams that feel real are cool, but the real buzz of lucid dreams is the control you have... where you can just say/think 'I'm bored here, I wanna go somewhere else' and you just will whatever you want and it becomes.

Perhaps it didn't happen all the time with me then.

Does it count as lucid if I tried to exit a dream and I was able to?

As far as I understand it, the best way to describe it is that you're consciously aware... with full waking lucidity... except you're asleep... that it's a dream and therefore you have control over it. In other words, applying waking consciousness to a dream world without limits... think and make decisions as you would in waking life, but in a dream world.
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
Lucid dreams are great. About 50% of my dreams have been lucid for years.

Of the dreams I actually remember, I mean.

Of course, I'm talking about those PROPER lucid dreams. Those are great. The improper/bogus ones suck ass.

One of my PROPER lucid dreams: I was knocking down skyscrapers with green laser beams coming out of my arms. THAT WAS SO FUN!

Innocent people were screaming in there, sure, but I knew it was a dream. It was only the screams of innocent dreampeople.

...... do you think I'm a little power mad?

The Screams of Innocent Dreampeople has totally gotta be my next album title.
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
In case any of you guys are interested, I'd recommend THIS book on the subject, by a pioneer in the study of it... teaches you what it is, how to do it, and the science/research behind it. There may be more up to date versions of that book available now, but this is the one that I read back in the day, and which was very helpful.

(February 16, 2018 at 10:28 am)Hammy Wrote: Lucid dreams are great. About 50% of my dreams have been lucid for years.

Of the dreams I actually remember, I mean.

Of course, I'm talking about those PROPER lucid dreams. Those are great. The improper/bogus ones suck ass.

One of my PROPER lucid dreams: I was knocking down skyscrapers with green laser beams coming out of my arms. THAT WAS SO FUN!

Innocent people were screaming in there, sure, but I knew it was a dream. It was only the screams of innocent dreampeople.

...... do you think I'm a little power mad?

I'm not surprised you've had a lot of them... your sleep pattern's nearly as random as mine Wink

As to the rest... no comment... it's your dream Wink
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
I don't remember my dreams for the most part.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
Lucid dream doesn't mean "really real dream." It means you're aware you're dreaming and you might be able to control it. I had one, a sexual one.

I liked it
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
You know, i'm not really sure i. Believe in lucid dreams. I'm willing to believe, without question, that in Some dreams people believe they have control over their dreams. I've had dream where i realized i was dreaming. But did i really realize it, or was i dreaming that i realized it and had, for that fleeting moment, control? And how could we differentiate between having control in a lucid dream or dreaming that we are lucid dreaming?
"If we go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, suggesting 69.
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
(February 16, 2018 at 11:48 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote: You know, i'm not really sure i. Believe in lucid dreams. I'm willing to believe, without question, that in Some dreams people believe they have control over their dreams. I've had dream where i realized i was dreaming. But did i really realize it, or was i dreaming that i realized it and had, for that fleeting moment, control? And how could we differentiate between having control in a lucid dream or dreaming that we are lucid dreaming?

I understand you could be skeptical if you've never experienced one, cos it does sound kind of wooish, but if you're interested in any of the research on it, the book I mentioned above describes it... where for instance the dreaming research subjects have a pre-arranged signal... moving their eyes... to inform the researcher that they're in the lucid dream state; so that's people under clinical observation sleeping, communicating with the outside world from within the dream state, using the limited physical actions available to them in that state. That demonstrates at least the lucid part... of having wakeful lucidity in the dream state because it not only requires a conscious decision to make that attempt to communicate, but also requires remembering something from waking life... ie the pre-arranged signal. But as to the actual control over the content of the dream, I guess that's not something that can be as easily demonstrated, so again, if you're skeptical, I guess it's something you won't truly believe until you experience it for yourself. All I know is that it's the coolest thing in the world to me, but I understand you can't take my word for it Wink
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
(February 16, 2018 at 12:31 pm)emjay Wrote:
(February 16, 2018 at 11:48 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote: You know, i'm not really sure i. Believe in lucid dreams. I'm willing to believe, without question, that in Some dreams people believe they have control over their dreams. I've had dream where i realized i was dreaming. But did i really realize it, or was i dreaming that i realized it and had, for that fleeting moment, control? And how could we differentiate between having control in a lucid dream or dreaming that we are lucid dreaming?

I understand you could be skeptical if you've never experienced one, cos it does sound kind of wooish, but if you're interested in any of the research on it, the book I mentioned above describes it... where for instance the dreaming research subjects have a pre-arranged signal... moving their eyes... to inform the researcher that they're in the lucid dream state; so that's people under clinical observation sleeping, communicating with the outside world from within the dream state, using the limited physical actions available to them in that state. That demonstrates at least the lucid part... of having wakeful lucidity in the dream state because it not only requires a conscious decision to make that attempt to communicate, but also requires remembering something from waking life... ie the pre-arranged signal. But as to the actual control over the content of the dream, I guess that's not something that can be as easily demonstrated, so again, if you're skeptical, I guess it's something you won't truly believe until you experience it for yourself. All I know is that it's the coolest thing in the world to me, but I understand you can't take my word for it Wink

Oh no, i've had one or two. I just couldn't tell if they were truly lucid or if i dreamt i was having a lucid dream. Iffen that makes sense
"If we go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, suggesting 69.
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
Don't know if I've had a lucid one. Plenty of disturbing vivid ones that I know must be a dream and I wake myself up.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Just had my first proper lucid dream
I get them. I usually just realize I'm lucid and go flying around, since I love to fly in dreams.

I got them a lot when I was using the patch to quit smoking. Makes me want to do it again.

(February 16, 2018 at 11:48 am)Mr.Obvious Wrote: You know, i'm not really sure i. Believe in lucid dreams. I'm willing to believe, without question, that in Some dreams people believe they have control over their dreams. I've had dream where i realized i was dreaming. But did i really realize it, or was i dreaming that i realized it and had, for that fleeting moment, control? And how could we differentiate between having control in a lucid dream or dreaming that we are lucid dreaming?

I was pretty surprised when I ran up against lucid dreaming skepticism. It was weird because I know I've had them. I know they exist. I know anyone can have them. If you're dreaming that you realized you're dreaming, then you are aware you're dreaming.
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