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Evolution
RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:23 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Calling me a reprobate isn't a sign of offense?!?
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You really need to have a talk with mom and dad about acceptable curriculum. The gaping holes in your science knowledge will hinder you if you want to go to college. Unless you're planning on attending one of these fine, upstanding establichments. Angel

Yes, there are more holes in my knowledge of science than solid material, I'm not so certain college can fix that.

(March 10, 2018 at 4:28 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: So, banned. If evolution is wrong, does speciation ever occur?

Yes it occurs all the time. But it doesn't prove evolution, because evolution assumes an extreme extension of those processes.
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RE: Evolution
Quote:Explain that to the government.
Does the government own the stars . Can they command the weather . Can they stop earthquake with a word . Can they order plagues to stop . If not they may live in the world and build laws among men. But they own nothing .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Evolution
On a more serious note. Isn't gawd gonna be pissed that you're playing on the internet instead of observing your sabbath?!? That is today, is it not.

Yes, college can plug the holes your home schooling left you with, but you have to want it first. You seem content in your ignorance. Truly sad for someone who claims to seek truths.
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RE: Evolution
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Yes it occurs all the time. But it doesn't prove evolution, because evolution assumes an extreme extension of those processes.
There is nothing extreme about it . And extension are a natural conclusion . And yes they are a good evidence of evolution . You just won't take it to it's rightful reasonable conclusion .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Regarding abiogenesis: If you take a lab flask the size of a planet and dump in everything needed to make life happen, then it's probably going to happen. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here. But it did. In tidal pools where all the chemistry was there the line was crossed and life began. No magic to it, just chemistry.

So it is, because it probably happened?

That doesn't settle the question of cause does it?
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RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:30 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 4:23 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Calling me a reprobate isn't a sign of offense?!?
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You really need to have a talk with mom and dad about acceptable curriculum. The gaping holes in your science knowledge will hinder you if you want to go to college. Unless you're planning on attending one of these fine, upstanding establichments. Angel

Yes, there are more holes in my knowledge of science than solid material, I'm not so certain college can fix that.

(March 10, 2018 at 4:28 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: So, banned. If evolution is wrong, does speciation ever occur?

Yes it occurs all the time. But it doesn't prove evolution, because evolution assumes an extreme extension of those processes.

Evolution makes no extreme claims. Rather the claim is gradual changes over time. It's creationism that makes the rather extreme claim that the entire universe was spoken into existence in a mere 6 days.
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RE: Evolution
Quote:So it is, because it probably happened?

That doesn't settle the question of cause does it?
Yes yes it does 
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RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Regarding abiogenesis: If you take a lab flask the size of a planet and dump in everything needed to make life happen, then it's probably going to happen. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here. But it did. In tidal pools where all the chemistry was there the line was crossed and life began. No magic to it, just chemistry.

So it is, because it probably happened?

That doesn't settle the question of cause does it?

Not understanding a cause is reason to seek it out, not reason to deny it.
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RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Banned Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Regarding abiogenesis: If you take a lab flask the size of a planet and dump in everything needed to make life happen, then it's probably going to happen. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here. But it did. In tidal pools where all the chemistry was there the line was crossed and life began. No magic to it, just chemistry.

So it is, because it probably happened?

That doesn't settle the question of cause does it?

No, because there's no need for a question of cause.
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RE: Evolution
(March 10, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
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Yes it occurs all the time. But it doesn't prove evolution, because evolution assumes an extreme extension of those processes.
There is nothing extreme about it . And extension are a natural conclusion . And yes they are a good evidence of evolution . You just won't take it to it's rightful reasonable conclusion .

Rightful reasonable conclusion? Like horses stretching their necks to become giraffes, etc?
The rightful reasonable conclusion would have to be based on observation and testing no?
Neither evidence exists for that conclusion, so why buy it?

Would you say that evolution has been more obvious in the past than in modern times?

(March 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Banned Wrote: So it is, because it probably happened?

That doesn't settle the question of cause does it?

No, because there's no need for a question of cause.

Only if an effect has a cause.
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