This is Funny Coming From A Rebel Klansman Like Sessions

[Lek]

So the solution for the US is to have a de facto open border policy?

With a shrinking and increasingly uneducated population, yes.

Fair enough.

[Seraphina]

California doesn't want to waste any of their own time or resources on the "problem" of browns existing in their midst, RR.  It's really that simple.  

They've flatly stated that the fed can and will do whatever the fuck they want.  It's their lynching party, they can do the gruntwork themselves.  Sort of like how you'd probably insist that someone else service all the gay males in your vicinity.  No skin off your back...someone will, it just wont be you.  So, if the fed is looking to delegate for either task..perhaps they should stick to excited homosexuals and committed bigots?

When liberals don't have an answer to any question, they just scream racism.  The question is "are we going to limit immigration into this country, and if we want to do this, are we going to enforce the laws which we have implemented"?  I keep asking if anybody here is for open borders and nobody has answered "yes".  It doesn't do any good to make laws and not enforce them.  If you enforce immigration law then you're going to hurt a lot of"good" people.  There are millions of "good" people who would like to come to this country.

First of all, California does not make or enforce immigration laws. Immigration and Customs Enforcement - a federal entity - does that. States can and do work in tandem with the feds but California is pushing back on the draconian enforcement by the current federal administration.

You're also conveniently ignoring the Trump's administration's incoherence with addressing immigration issues, including the DACA merry-go-round.

-Teresa

[Fireball]

For most of recorded history nations had a de facto open border policy.  One of the main reasons Napoleon lost was because he tried to close his borders, pissing off all his subjects.

If Lek had any legitimacy at all in his assertion, civilisation would not now exist.

So the solution for the US is to have a de facto open border policy?

It IS a de facto open border, already, and has been for many a year.

[Lek]

When liberals don't have an answer to any question, they just scream racism.  The question is "are we going to limit immigration into this country, and if we want to do this, are we going to enforce the laws which we have implemented"?  I keep asking if anybody here is for open borders and nobody has answered "yes".  It doesn't do any good to make laws and not enforce them.  If you enforce immigration law then you're going to hurt a lot of"good" people.  There are millions of "good" people who would like to come to this country.

First of all, California does not make or enforce immigration laws. Immigration and Customs Enforcement - a federal entity - does that. States can and do work in tandem with the feds but California is pushing back on the draconian enforcement by the current federal administration.

You're also conveniently ignoring the Trump's administration's incoherence with addressing immigration issues, including the DACA merry-go-round.

-Teresa

They certainly create policies designed to thwart immigration enforcement. The state government even warned business owners not to cooperate with Federal immigration authorities or be prosecuted by the state. California is very nice to illegal immigrants, but not very nice to their legal businessmen. Nothing like being stuck in the middle.

[The Grand Nudger]

California is an economic powerhouse with a gdp better than most countries.  They're wonderful to their businessmen..but, really, who the fuck cares?  You're talking about immigration law, ostensibly.  Not trying to create a class war between "businessmen" and migrants..right?

The "nicest" they are to migrants, by comparison..is to simply avoid complicity in their persecution and oppression at a federal level. They watch people punch them in the face, in their own yard..but don't do the punching. Real nice, lol.

[GODZILLA]

California is an economic powerhouse with a gdp better than most countries.  They're wonderful to their businessmen..but, really, who the fuck cares?  You're talking about immigration law, ostensibly.  Not trying to create a class war between "businessmen" and migrants..right?

The "nicest" they are to migrants, by comparison..is to simply avoid complicity in their persecution and oppression at a federal level.  They watch people punch them in the face, in their own yard..but don't do the punching.  Real nice, lol.

I love how the right denies this fact and yet believe that Texas is somehow the greatest state in the Union. Many of them don't recognize that California is essentially paying for most of the welfare in this country that goes to conservative states mostly.

[Lek]

California is an economic powerhouse with a gdp better than most countries.  They're wonderful to their businessmen..but, really, who the fuck cares?  You're talking about immigration law, ostensibly.  Not trying to create a class war between "businessmen" and migrants..right?

The "nicest" they are to migrants, by comparison..is to simply avoid complicity in their persecution and oppression at a federal level.  They watch people punch them in the face, in their own yard..but don't do the punching.  Real nice, lol.

Oh yeah. California is wonderful to their businessmen. Yuk, yuk.

https://www.thebalance.com/best-and-wors...ss-3193240

[The Grand Nudger]

What conclusion would -you- think their globe crushing gdp supports?   That it's a leftist anti-business hellhole?  Don't be silly.

Please, though, bitch and whine to me more about taxes......lets see if you can even focus on your own pointless diversions. Immigrants pay taxes too, a huge amount...and they aren't eligible for services, or..apparently, due process or human rights in Trumps America, including california.......so who's getting the tax shaft? The poor downtrodden purchaser of illegal labor..or the shadow class of non-people being exploited as illegal labor, taxed, and deported for their trouble?

All the while, mind.......while assholes like you either lie or repeat the lies of others endlessly and imply that the country would just collapse if we weren't total dicks to mexicans, and how they have it better than honest hardworking "businessmen" who are drowning in billions of dollars in one of the richest pieces of ground on the planet.

[Amarok]

What conclusion would -you- think their globe crushing gdp supports?   That it's a leftist anti-business hellhole?  Don't be silly.

Please, though, bitch and whine to me more about taxes......lets see if you can even focus on your own pointless diversions.  Immigrants pay taxes too, a huge amount...and they aren't eligible for services, or..apparently, due process or human rights in Trumps America, including california.......so who's getting the tax shaft?  The poor downtrodden purchaser of illegal labor..or the shadow class of non-people being exploited as illegal labor, taxed, and deported for their trouble?  

All the while, mind.......while assholes like you either lie or repeat the lies of others endlessly and imply that the country would just collapse if we weren't total dicks to mexicans, and how they have it better than honest hardworking "businessmen" who are drowning in billions of dollars in one of the richest pieces of ground on the planet.

Gop policy 

Give the rich whatever they want or else

[Lek]

What conclusion would -you- think their globe crushing gdp supports?   That it's a leftist anti-business hellhole?  Don't be silly.

Please, though, bitch and whine to me more about taxes......lets see if you can even focus on your own pointless diversions.  Immigrants pay taxes too, a huge amount...and they aren't eligible for services, or..apparently, due process or human rights in Trumps America, including california.......so who's getting the tax shaft?  The poor downtrodden purchaser of illegal labor..or the shadow class of non-people being exploited as illegal labor, taxed, and deported for their trouble?  

All the while, mind.......while assholes like you either lie or repeat the lies of others endlessly and imply that the country would just collapse if we weren't total dicks to mexicans, and how they have it better than honest hardworking "businessmen" who are drowning in billions of dollars in one of the richest pieces of ground on the planet.

I agree with loving and respecting my fellow human beings.  That's one reason I support a liberal immigration and refugee policy, but I do believe in having control over who enters the country.  When someone sneaks into the country illegally, then he must be prepared for the consequences he faces for doing so.  It doesn't help when California announces that it is a "sanctuary state", therefore further enticing them to come.  As far as the name that you called me - back at you.  I've been gone a good while and forgot that you're a name caller, which doesn't lead to a real conversation.