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Malformed Idioms
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 11:51 am
"Throw the baby out with the bath water" always brings a smile to my face.

Camon, cut me a break.
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 11:53 am
(April 13, 2018 at 8:57 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(April 13, 2018 at 8:53 am)Divinity Wrote: It begs the question

What's it supposed to be then? I've heard people use this expression for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's more usual in Britain? I've always taken it to mean, that one feels compelled to wonder about something specifically implied by something else.

e.g.

"He's driving off to Slough again tomorrow. It begs the question as to why he keeps going there."

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/beg+the+question

Edit: This page though suggests that it is originally derived from the fallacious argument begging the question

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(April 13, 2018 at 8:56 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "I could care less" always irks me.  That means you have some level of caring!  The real phrase is "I couldn't care less."

Yeah, I think it's the Americans who say the former, whereas Brits say the latter.

A USian for "couldn't", here.
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 11:59 am
(April 13, 2018 at 8:57 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(April 13, 2018 at 8:53 am)Divinity Wrote: It begs the question

What's it supposed to be then? I've heard people use this expression for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's more usual in Britain? I've always taken it to mean, that one feels compelled to wonder about something specifically implied by something else.

Colloquially speaking, you can say "begs the question". It's just that, philosophically, it has a specific meaning ("assume the conclusion in the premises of the argument"). I personally say "raises the question" when I want to mean what you're referring to.
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 12:07 pm
(April 13, 2018 at 11:59 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(April 13, 2018 at 8:57 am)Mathilda Wrote: What's it supposed to be then? I've heard people use this expression for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's more usual in Britain? I've always taken it to mean, that one feels compelled to wonder about something specifically implied by something else.

Colloquially speaking, you can say "begs the question". It's just that, philosophically, it has a specific meaning ("assume the conclusion in the premises of the argument"). I personally say "raises the question" when I want to mean what you're referring to.

Me too, ever since I learnt that... so I used to say 'it begs the question' a lot in that situation but now only ever say, almost obsessively, 'it raises the question'.
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 12:42 pm
(April 13, 2018 at 11:59 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(April 13, 2018 at 8:57 am)Mathilda Wrote: What's it supposed to be then? I've heard people use this expression for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's more usual in Britain? I've always taken it to mean, that one feels compelled to wonder about something specifically implied by something else.

Colloquially speaking, you can say "begs the question". It's just that, philosophically, it has a specific meaning ("assume the conclusion in the premises of the argument"). I personally say "raises the question" when I want to mean what you're referring to.

Well, that's about as clear as the nose on your face.
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 13, 2018 at 12:50 pm
(April 13, 2018 at 8:56 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "I could care less" always irks me.  That means you have some level of caring!  The real phrase is "I couldn't care less."






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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 14, 2018 at 3:56 am
I literally died laughing!

Also, and we're all guilty of this, but to be perfectly honest, I hate it when people say: To be perfectly honest!
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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 14, 2018 at 4:57 am
Also, innit interesting how often people say, 'No offense, but...' and continue on being offensive?

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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 14, 2018 at 2:41 pm
It's just awkward, but I heard this on the news one night:

When the parents returned, their baby was discovered to be missing.


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RE: Malformed Idioms
April 14, 2018 at 8:07 pm
On that note, "he woke up dead"
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