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Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
#21
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
(December 1, 2010 at 9:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Apparently Julian Assange is in my area: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B105J20101202

Careful or you might be raped by the world newest supervillain
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#22
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
Good luck to Julian Assange.
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#23
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
Lol anonymous joined wikileaks and declared the first infowarBig Grin

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#24
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
@Ashendant

No,I don't think so .My perception of Assange is that he is a toxic narcissist and a criminal.Who the fuck put him in charge?

I do not subscribe to the notion of the' public's right to know ANYTHING. (rejecting the notion of innate rights of any kind)

I have only deep suspicion of and contempt for self righteous vigilantes and self described altruists.


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#25
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
I think periodic massive indiscriminant leaks of secret government information is on the whole a good thing.
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#26
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
(December 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm)padraic Wrote: @Ashendant

No,I don't think so .My perception of Assange is that he is a toxic narcissist and a criminal.Who the fuck put him in charge?

I do not subscribe to the notion of the' public's right to know ANYTHING. (rejecting the notion of innate rights of any kind)

I have only deep suspicion of and contempt for self righteous vigilantes and self described altruists.

Too much goes on in the shadows and the dark and there are too many secrets. Secrets costs a society trust in their government and their institutions. The result of secrets is conspiracy theories, overall anxieties and unrest such as we have now with the state of the economy. Unless there is a true need for confidentiality too much lies in the dark. What better says a patient is on the mend than the shades up and the curtains open?


The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
- Albert Einstein
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#27
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
(December 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm)padraic Wrote: My perception of Assange is that he is a .... criminal.

Except he didn't actually do anything illegal, at least as far as the USA's laws are concerned. If he had done something illegal, the morons in charge wouldn't be scrambling to make new legislation to bust Wikileaks with in the future. Of course, said laws will eventually be found to be unconstitutional as they all have been in the past.

(December 6, 2010 at 9:23 pm)Ashendant Wrote: Lol anonymous joined wikileaks and declared the first infowarBig Grin

Things are about to get interesting & probably entertaining.

"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#28
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
Latest update is that Assange's lawyers are stating that if Assange stands trial or is killed the leaks will go 'thermonuclear" with no redaction of name and places to protect the innocent.

Right now the Swedish prosecutors website is under attack.

This is getting downright Matrixish.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it.
- Albert Einstein
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#29
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Don't coddle the knucklehead.
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#30
RE: Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
(December 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm)padraic Wrote: @Ashendant

No,I don't think so .My perception of Assange is that he is a toxic narcissist and a criminal.Who the fuck put him in charge?

I do not subscribe to the notion of the' public's right to know ANYTHING. (rejecting the notion of innate rights of any kind)

I have only deep suspicion of and contempt for self righteous vigilantes and self described altruists.

Assange has broken no laws, at least relating to WikiLeaks. And I shudder to think of the day, which seems closer than farther, where men are harassed, jailed or even executed because they're perceived as "toxic".

All defined rights have their limits, some more than others. The right for Americans to know where their goddamn taxes are being spend is a fair one to note. Certainly, that right has certain limitations, but who in their right mind would argue for one way or another?

Your suspicions, in light of this and noting that you decided to attack the character, not the concepts, seem to me to most ridiculous.

Assange is now the current litmus test for totalitarianism - as he has committed no crime (except the same "crime" that newspapers have been doing since forever - one example is the Pentagon Papers) with regards to WikiLeaks, we shall see if merely pissing off the brave leader of the "Free World" with their much vaunted democracy allows for an excuse to circumvent it's "ideals".




(December 7, 2010 at 11:54 pm)Mishka Wrote: Don't coddle the knucklehead.

Coddle?

Ah, so because he's an inconvenience to your perception of things, then we must treat him roughly even though he has broken no law?

I see.

...

I, for one, jeer our new overlords.

Oh yeah, Mishka - have you ever paused to think about this phrase:

"You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind"

If any part of WikiLeaks is going down, even one of their close members, then it will get nasty. And they aren't bluffing.

Don't coddle the knucklehead... right...
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