DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Ravenshire]

It's God's will how He designs and builds the universe.  This is off topic and I don't have all the answers for how God operates His universe. 

No it is completely on-topic because life has self-organised. This is why it is neither a blind undirected process or designed. Crystals such as snowflakes also self-organise.

Why do you believe that your god designs each individual snowflake to be different when you neither know how nor why, or have any evidence that he does?

Isn't the simplest explanation that he does not design each individual snowflake? Why choose the more complex explanation?

(emphasis is mine)

Because the more complex explanation fits his preconceptions.

[CDF47]

It's God's will how He designs and builds the universe.  This is off topic and I don't have all the answers for how God operates His universe. 

No it is completely on-topic because life has self-organised. This is why it is neither a blind undirected process or designed. Crystals such as snowflakes also self-organise.

Why do you believe that your god designs each individual snowflake to be different when you neither know how nor why, or have any evidence that he does?

Isn't the simplest explanation that he does not design each individual snowflake? Why choose the more complex explanation?

Quit spinning my words.  I said however God wills to operate His universe is how it is done.  I do not have all the answers for how God operates and controls the universe.  What I do have though is proof of design which is the point of the thread.  Also, either the universe is designed or not.  There is no in-between like you try to make it out to be with self organizing systems.

[Angrboda]

How is that not a strawman?  That's a textbook example of one.  You do realize that simply asserting things that aren't true proves nothing, don't you?

My point was either the process is directed by a Creator or undirected by anyone.  There are only two options here.  That is not a straw man.

A process that is not directed by a specific agent is not necessarily an undirected process. You claimed the latter, not the former. In addition to being a straw man, it's also a false dichotomy, as it's possible that the universe was not created at all.

[I_am_not_mafia]

My point was either the process is directed by a Creator or undirected by anyone.  There are only two options here.  That is not a straw man.

It is a strawman argument because I and many others have repeatedly told you that life, along with many other things such as snowflakes, self-organise. Self organisation is neither designed nor an undirected blind process. If you read that paper I posted rather than ignored it then you would have known this.

Tell me, is your god making sure that every part of this chair assembles correctly? Or is this a blind undirected process? In which case, how come we get a chair at the end of it?

[CDF47]

My point was either the process is directed by a Creator or undirected by anyone.  There are only two options here.  That is not a straw man.

A process that is not directed by a specific agent is not necessarily an undirected process.  You claimed the latter, not the former.  In addition to being a straw man, it's also a false dichotomy, as it's possible that the universe was not created at all.

It's impossible that the super-symmetrical universe was not created.

[Anomalocaris]

No it is completely on-topic because life has self-organised. This is why it is neither a blind undirected process or designed. Crystals such as snowflakes also self-organise.

Why do you believe that your god designs each individual snowflake to be different when you neither know how nor why, or have any evidence that he does?

Isn't the simplest explanation that he does not design each individual snowflake? Why choose the more complex explanation?

(emphasis is mine)

Because the more complex explanation fits his preconceptions.

He prefer the more complex explanation because the explanation provides a bribe of the unverifiable promise of a nonsensical salvation. So loathsome does he find himself that he lives in mortal terror of not being comforted with an infantile expectation of being saved.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Isn't the simplest explanation that he does not design each individual snowflake? Why choose the more complex explanation?

I said however God wills to operate His universe is how it is done.  I do not have all the answers for how God operates and controls the universe. 

And scientists do not have all the explanations for how the world works.

[CDF47]

My point was either the process is directed by a Creator or undirected by anyone.  There are only two options here.  That is not a straw man.

It is a strawman argument because I and many others have repeatedly told you that life, along with many other things such as snowflakes, self-organise. Self organisation is neither designed nor an undirected blind process. If you read that paper I posted rather than ignored it then you would have known this.

Tell me, is your god making sure that every part of this chair assembles correctly? Or is this a blind undirected process? In which case, how come we get a chair at the end of it?

No, there are only two options: designed or not designed.  That is all. It either took an intelligence to create it or it is blind and dumb.

[Ravenshire]

I said however God wills to operate His universe is how it is done.  I do not have all the answers for how God operates and controls the universe. 

And scientists do not have all the explanations for how the world works.

But, science has found more actual answers in the last two years than religion has managed in the last to millennia.

[Angrboda]

DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes.

Asserted but not proven. 

Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G.  In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters.  In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA.  This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe.

Irrelevant detail without a point.

So, no, you didn't prove anything with your first post, despite your continually lying and saying that you did.