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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 2:06 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(November 5, 2018 at 2:02 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You're dead wrong. You think DNA would work without amino acids ? LMAO .... you are SO unbelievably ignorant of all this. Proteins are ONLY made of amino acids. (and YOU have not one shred of evidence any protein is made of anything else)  ... NOTHING.
http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoam...einsmadeof

We do continue to see the preposterous level of your total ignorance.

The charges on the histones are attracted to the CHEMICAL order of the DNA.
https://socratic.org/questions/why-do-hi...tly-to-dna

PLEASE. Go get an education.
Stop making a fool of yourself.

I know that it encodes the order of amino acid chains and the length.  I meant the material type of the chemicals in the DNA molecule.

And you're dead wrong there too.
https://www.livescience.com/37247-dna.html
DNA is made of nucleotides. Each nucleotide contains a phosphate group, a sugar group and a nitrogen base. The four types of nitrogen bases are adenine (A), thymine (T), guanine (G) and cytosine ©. The order of these bases is what determines DNA's "instructions". The ONLY reason DNA works is because of chemical CHARGES that attract opposite charged amino acids, in a specific order. ... thus making a protein.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21514/

It is PRECISELY the "material type", (the nucleotides)  and their order, which attracts amino acids in precise orders, due to chemical charges/attraction, that makes proteins.
"It is not the material type that encodes for proteins" .... yes it IS, and precisely IS. You have it 100 % wrong. The nucleotides encode for the amino acids / proteins.
You have NO IDEA how ignorant you are.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 1:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(November 5, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It is all only chemistry. The reason the base pairs are attracted is nothing but opposite charged particles, (as in all of chemistry, of which you are totally ignorant), AND that is the reason the proteins are formed on the template. It matters 110 % "what the material is" They are charged atomic particles .... your ignorance is astounding. No wonder you are left to the likes of Lee Strobel to find your non-answers. The order of the base pairs does matter, (duh), but only chemically. It's the REASON why small defects in the chemistry an have such profound effects on health. You *really* need a science class, (or 3).

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/a...etter-time

What matters is the order of the information which encodes for proteins which is true.  It is not the material type that encodes for proteins.

Why does the order of this so-called 'information' matter?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
At work.

So, all that seems to be forth coming now is/are simply repeated assertions.

No explanations to questions seeking further expansion upon other questions asked.

Such as: Why does terrestrial DNA use a 'Pentose' (5-sided) sugar backbone when 'Hexonucleic acid' (6-sided) is quite do-able/possible?

Instead of a cardohydrate sugar why isn't an amino acid chain (Peptide backbone) used? It's more structurally stable and robust at higher temperatures. (Terrestrial DNA falls apart above temperatures of 21.3' C [71' F] )

All CDF47 can seem to do is reply "Nuh-uh! Goddidit!"
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: All CDF47 can seem to do is reply "Nuh-uh! Goddidit!"
Yeah, and according to our über engineer, he was so bad at godly engineering that he had to add a "spellchecker" in his "program" for DNA self replication. Just go back a few pages where he states this nonsense.  Hehe
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(November 5, 2018 at 2:06 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I know that it encodes the order of amino acid chains and the length.  I meant the material type of the chemicals in the DNA molecule.

And you're dead wrong there too.
https://www.livescience.com/37247-dna.html
DNA is made of nucleotides. Each nucleotide contains a phosphate group, a sugar group and a nitrogen base. The four types of nitrogen bases are adenine (A), thymine (T), guanine (G) and cytosine ©. The order of these bases is what determines DNA's "instructions". The ONLY reason DNA works is because of chemical CHARGES that attract opposite charged amino acids, in a specific order. ... thus making a protein.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21514/

It is PRECISELY the "material type", (the nucleotides)  and their order, which attracts amino acids in precise orders, due to chemical charges/attraction, that makes proteins.
"It is not the material type that encodes for proteins" .... yes it IS, and precisely IS. You have it 100 % wrong. The nucleotides encode for the amino acids / proteins.
You have NO IDEA how ignorant you are.

Yes, their order is what does the encoding was my point.  I know exactly what I was talking about.

(November 5, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(November 5, 2018 at 1:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What matters is the order of the information which encodes for proteins which is true.  It is not the material type that encodes for proteins.

Why does the order of this so-called 'information' matter?

Because information and codes always come from a mind.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

So, all that seems to be forth coming now is/are simply repeated assertions.

No explanations to questions seeking further expansion upon other questions asked.

Such as: Why does terrestrial DNA use a 'Pentose' (5-sided) sugar backbone when 'Hexonucleic acid' (6-sided) is quite do-able/possible?

Instead of a cardohydrate sugar why isn't an amino acid chain (Peptide backbone) used? It's more structurally stable and robust at higher temperatures.  (Terrestrial DNA falls apart above temperatures of 21.3' C [71' F] )

All CDF47 can seem to do is reply "Nuh-uh! Goddidit!"

Quite the sport it is, playing chess with pigeons. I used to find it more entertaining a few years ago. The conclusion is, that while the pigeon wins everytime, there might be people reading the exchange of thoughts. if he is against atheists, then he is doing a fine job, IMHO.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Wrong. Totally wrong.

He's equivocating the words "codes" and "information", (which of course he never defined for these purposes, and never will).
The orders of the base pairs, and the totally CHEMICAL process, no matter WHAT ONE CHOOSES to call it, EVOLVED.
There are samples of DNA in Evolutionary DNA labs where this can be seen.

They are not "codes" or "information' They are "chemical patterns" and "biochemical patterns" (which are observed), which this Creationist CHOOSES to (dishonestly) call "codes" and "information" to suit his purpose. They are nothing but evolved chemical interactions. His exercise is intellectually wanting and dishonest, AND he is unable to discuss other examples or instances. There are ALL kinds of naturally occurring patterns ... the Fibonacci sequence is observed ALL OVER NATURE, (which this idiot once said was "chaotic").
So the order and patterns always being the product of a "mind" is totally false.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt2OlMAJj6o

There are no codes. There is no information. All there are, are chemical reactions.
He is suffering from  
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apophenia

It's also the "loaded label" fallacy, (the etymological fallacy).
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 5, 2018 at 4:11 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(November 4, 2018 at 6:36 am)Wololo Wrote: Mrm Inquisition for the first time in his life is being honest.  Here he's admitting he's got nothing but a nebulous and unformed belief based on no evidence and contradicting everything known about the universe.

Problem for us is that this adimission is an unconscious reflex, his admission will be ignored.

You wish.

You're the clown, I'm the homocidal maniac bent on taking over the galaxy:





And to imagine that episode came from the same Trek series with a worse grasp of evolution than you do! (though it's still not Dear Doctor levels of bad).

(November 5, 2018 at 11:01 am)CDF47 Wrote: When there is complex functional information there is a designer.  It is found in the DNA molecule.

Hey, idiot. The bullshit term is "complex specified information".

Keep your nonsense correct, boyo.
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CD - how much complex functional information does your god designer have ?

He sounds awfully complex. I wonder who designed him ?
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