DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Everena]

Mushrooms are even in the vegetable section of the supermarket.

That has to be a contender for THE most hilariously stupid comment ever written on the internet.
I'm gonna tell that one at school and to the docs tomorrow.
Great hilarity will ensue.

Oh yes it is so funny that I said I said fungi are plants and more similiar to plants than animals since they are not conscious life. And yes used the example of them being amonst all the other plant food. That is so great. You guys really know how to have a good time after I have repeatedly proven you all wrong over and over again.

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Not is the same sense that we are or that the animals are.

Your scientific illiteracy is astounding. Is this what religious home-schooling does to you?

Plants are alive in exactly the same way that we are. 

Ok so then all fruits and berries and avocados and tree nuts and seeds and beans and rice and corn and wheat and honey and maple and salt and guess what? We could easily live off just those things and I could name a lot more.

We're starving half the human race as is and you think that limiting our intake to a few select food groups would make things easier? Congrats on a lovely recipe for more suffering and environmental destruction. Good luck getting the cheetahs and sharks onto a diet of muesli.

You have no argument. Case closed.

Argument by assertion followed by victory by assertion. You probably should have stopped pushing when the Q-tip met resistance.

You were wrong, as you are about almost everything that has to do with atheism. Maybe that should tell you something.

[Bucky Ball]

Oh yes it is so funny that I said I said fungi are plants and more similiar to plants than animals since they are not conscious life. And yes used the example of them being amonst all the other plant food. That is so great. You guys really know how to have a good time after I have repeatedly proven you all wrong over and over again.

There she goes again. 
She *needs* to keep telling her poor little insecure self that she did something that never happened. 
LOL

[Everena]

This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

I have never been a Buddhist and would never be a Buddhist.

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I've been a pastafartian for 20 some years but you make a strong argument for Buddhism, please go on.

Well, thanks. I believe in karma and reincarnation so I agree with Buddhists on that (ONLY)

[Bucky Ball]

So now, scientifically, ladies and gentlemen, plants and animals and other forms of life will be classified by what section they are in, in the supermarket.

[Everena]

Oh yes it is so funny that I said I said fungi are plants and more similiar to plants than animals since they are not conscious life. And yes used the example of them being amonst all the other plant food. That is so great. You guys really know how to have a good time after I have repeatedly proven you all wrong over and over again.

There she goes again. 
She *needs* to keep telling her poor little insecure self that she did something that never happened. 
LOL

Do you really want me to go back and pull up the like 20 different times I have proven you guys wrong? (It would burn up some pages and I already did it with it the Schroedingers Bacteria article) Up for some more Bucky bullshitter?

[Bucky Ball]

Do you really want me to go back and pull up the like 20 different times I have proven you guys wrong? (It would burn up some pages and I already did it with it the Schroedingers Bacteria articel) Up for some more Bucky bullshitter?

Ooooh, Snookums makes an empty threat.
Whatever turns your crank, sweetie.

Is this, (your ignorant childish garbage) REALLY the way your god wants itself represented ?

[Paleophyte]

Are you an example of what no schooling does to someone? And my parents were agnostic and atheist and I attended public school and then 3 different
state Universities because I changed my major twice.

Going to school doesn't mean you ever learned anything.

And plants are not conscious life, and they are totally different from conscious life in literally trillions of ways.

I never said they were conscious. You said they weren't alive! The fact that you could ever consider that an option beggars the imagination.

Also I am sure my scientific literacy is just as good or better than yours is.

I'm sure you believe that. I'm equally sure you're wrong. You had to be told that plants were alive and that mushrooms aren't plants. So did I mind you, but I was 5 years old at the time.

How are you on parasitism? Gnawing on your food while it lives is about as horrific as it gets. More evidence for a malevolent god.

[Everena]

I look forward to seeing your defense after others' objections.

Explain how something "becomes complex" without a driving force of conscious intelligence. Also, are you all aware of the most recent discovery regarding DNA by scientists at the University of Washington? 


 "Since the genetic code was deciphered in the 1960s, scientists have assumed that it was used exclusively to write information about proteins. UW scientists were stunned to discover that genomes use the genetic code to write two separate languages. One describes how proteins are made, and the other instructs the cell on how genes are controlled. One language is written on top of the other, which is why the second language remained hidden for so long.
“For over 40 years we have assumed that DNA changes affecting the genetic code solely impact how proteins are made,” said Stamatoyannopoulos. “Now we know that this basic assumption about reading the human genome missed half of the picture. These new findings highlight that DNA is an incredibly powerful information storage device, which nature has fully exploited in unexpected ways.”
The genetic code uses a 64-letter alphabet called codons. The UW team discovered that some codons, which they called duons, can have two meanings, one related to protein sequence, and one related to gene control. These two meanings seem to have evolved in concert with each other. The gene control instructions appear to help stabilize certain beneficial features of proteins and how they are made.

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No one ever responded to this question and I posted it twice.

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[quote='Everena' pid='1845685' dateline='1541884576']
This entire universe and everything in it is evidence of higher intelligence. How and why do we have consciousness? Science doesn't know the answer to that.

Okay suppose that it didn't (it does)

In fact, remove yourself entirely from this situation.  If someone asked us the answer to a complicated math question...and I blurted out "42!" ...and I am wrong..the next guy...who blurts out "43!" isn't right on account of how I didn't know the answer to the question.

That, is what's known as an argument from ignorance.  The idea that because someone else doesn't know something, whatever you happen to say must be true.  It may be true that someone doesn't know something...but regardless..that won't mean that someone else does.

You're welcome.

Here's the second example of when I proved one you wrong, and he continued to argue this with me even though i had proven him wrong twice. Science does not yet have an explanation for how or why we are conscious. All science can do so far is pin point where in the brain we are experiencing consciousness, not how our conscious self awareness comes to be. There are only guesses, and neuroscientists all over the world are working on different hypotheses, but nothing has been proven.

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So now, scientifically, ladies and gentlemen, plants and animals and other forms of life will be classified by what section they are in, in the supermarket.

Proving to atheists how wrong they are about literally almost everything? Absolutely it's what God wants! 

[Bucky Ball]

Proving to atheists how wrong they are about literally almost everything? Absolutely it's what God wants!

Really ? When were you planning on starting that ? Did you plan on presenting your rubbish to Penrose ?

[Everena]

Proving to atheists how wrong they are about literally almost everything? Absolutely it's what God wants!

Really ? When were you planning on starting that ? Did you plan on presenting your rubbish to Penrose ?

No, I love Penrose. He has spent a big part of his career proving atheists wrong about artificial intelligence and consciousness. He believes in eternal life and has worked hard to prove we have a soul.