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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 8, 2018 at 1:47 pm
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Left out homeopathy . . .
Facilitated communication too.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 8, 2018 at 2:38 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I personally do not weight beliefs in the black-and-white way as the OP. With respect to plausibility and reasonableness, there are differences of degree between various beliefs.
Mathilda called it.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 2:53 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I personally do not weight beliefs in the black-and-white way as the OP. With respect to plausibility and reasonableness, there are differences of degree between various beliefs.
Here's a quick test of how you weight the plausibility and reasonableness of beliefs.
Which on has greater likelihood, Other intelligent life exists in the universe, or that a god(s) exist?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 3:20 pm
As for the original list, I consider these beliefs to all be equal. To zero.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 9:45 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 2:33 am)ignoramus Wrote: I'd like theists to read this. Just to "get" why we are the way we are.
I won't post an opinion, nothing derogatory. Just the facts.
If anyone disagrees, tell us why.
[EDITED] As skeptics, (of which atheism is a subset) Thanks guys...my bad.
Firstly, this is an extrapolation from another post which had me thinking.
For the sake of this post, we won't even bring any negativity, either real or perceived, which has come about from belief in "any" God.
As atheists we consider the following:
Antivaxxers
Flatearthers
Mormons
Scientologists
Palm reading
Astrology
Divine miracles (as described in the holy books)
Supernatural (as described in the holy books)
all as equals. They share exactly the same lowest common denominator. Namely 0% proof.
Obviously, if we aren't going to use the word proof in the scientific sense, then why even bother discussing the validity of anything :dunno
You may as well add abiogenesis to that list of beliefs that have no proof, which put you in the same boat.
(May 8, 2018 at 2:33 am)ignoramus Wrote: Theists, please understand that as people who are guided by "facts" (and so are all of you with every other aspect of your lives),
We atheists really cannot differentiate between all the woo above. (from a scientific and logical perspective) We don't treat the core proponents of religion any different.
My question is should we?
Or more importantly, could we?
Without making compromises to our thought processes? As we all know, we can't control what we believe.
What facts are you guided by that contradict biblical scripture?
Oh, and speaking of woo.
I believe life had a creator, I have no idea of the process.
You believe live created itself, you have no idea of the process.
If one is woo then they are both woo.
Looks like were in the same woo boat buddy.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 10:01 pm
Quote:You may as well add abiogenesis to that list of beliefs that have no proof, which put you in the same boat.
Wrong, Huggles. You see scientists are still working on understanding that process. They have not thrown in the towel and latched on to some stupid old book of bullshit as you fools have.
Let me know when someone starts researching that book of yours to find evidence that your 'god' did jack shit.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 10:35 pm
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"Scientists are working on it" is only a valid answer if its from a position of "I don't know"
Abiogenesis is an unproven claim that that has basically ruled out any other possibility, based on what?
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 11:04 pm
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(May 8, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:47 am)ignoramus Wrote: Who exactly did she think was going to grant her an afterlife?
Why would you think that an afterlife has o be granted?
Many Buddhists believe that there is an afterlife, yet don't believe in gods.
Maybe it is just part of the nature of the universe, no gods necessary.
I don't believe it for a second, but not sure why it has to be contingent on a deity.
IIRC, Buddhists believe one can become a god.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 11:16 pm
Quote:IIRC, Buddhists believe one can become a god.
Yup as do most asian religions
Statue of Guan Yu a warrior of the three kingdoms period . Was later declared a god of war.
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RE: To theists- A logical insight into Atheism
May 12, 2018 at 11:16 pm
Mormons too.
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