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RE: Internal vs External perspective
May 25, 2018 at 2:44 am
My question would be not does religion make you a good person (anyone who needs threats from God to be good is probably not a good person to begin with), but rather, does religion attract people with greater than average empathy? Again, I'd say no simply by looking at jail statistics...
Religion is just a club you join for whatever reason. You buy into the label. Everyone's gives lip service. Those that are good christians and do good would still be good people who will so good irrespective of the club they've joined. They join for the same reasons people buy Pruis'. They think they're making a difference.
All they're doing is feeding the gold plated corporate multinational.
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Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Internal vs External perspective
May 25, 2018 at 5:20 am
No.
I "join" because I think it's true. That's the only reason.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Internal vs External perspective
May 25, 2018 at 2:29 pm
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2018 at 2:31 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
Personally I am extremely externally focused. But maybe I'm the exception.
However, I do NOT mean I am not introspective. On the contrary. I'm extremely introspective. Although it's philosophical and logical introspection rather than emotional introspection. It's reflection. It's contemplation.
What I mean is that even though our values exist in our brains they point to truths external to us. And even if no humans ever existed there would still be truths. Just not truths to be known.
I'm also an externalist when it comes to motivation as ultimately all our internal conscious motives are determined by external unconscious causes.
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RE: Internal vs External perspective
May 25, 2018 at 2:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2018 at 2:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
There may be no difference between the two..any separation being purely linguistic.
(between logical and emotional introspection)
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RE: Internal vs External perspective
May 25, 2018 at 9:03 pm
I see theistic morality as more subjectively concluded, due to the fact that they derive morality from a personal place of understanding than something outside of biblical standards. If they were objective in regard to morality, they would understand that god is a monster.
