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Ybe an atheist
RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 25, 2018 at 8:50 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Definitely.
But this guy doesn't just seem to resemble one, he's starting to sound like he *is* that same guy. (Forgot his name, and I'm not masochistic enough to look it up  Big Grin  )

He might be hiding behind the text speak, because normally I recognize those who come back with previously used behavioral patterns.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
Oh, the guy I was thinking of didn't get banned. Imagine that.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 25, 2018 at 6:20 pm)Edwardo Piet Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 3:24 pm)Ybe Wrote: Atheism is the default for anyone who doesn’t believe in any gods.
vs
Atheism is "not" the default for anyone who doesn’t believe in any gods.
   The second one makes zero sense. It's like:
    Four sides is the default number of sides for a square.
    vs
Four sides is NOT the default number of sides for a square.
More like:
 A-squarism is the default for anyone that doesn't believe in any Squares.
  vs
 A-squarism is not the default for anyone that doesn't believe in any Squares.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 25, 2018 at 3:46 pm)Ybe Wrote:  If you don't have a rational reason for your belief,  how can you claim to know that I don't have a rational  reason for my belief?

Where did I ever claim to know such a thing?   I believe it.  Big difference.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 25, 2018 at 11:59 pm)Ybe Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 6:20 pm)Edwardo Piet Wrote:    The second one makes zero sense. It's like:
    Four sides is the default number of sides for a square.
    vs
Four sides is NOT the default number of sides for a square.
More like:
 A-squarism is the default for anyone that doesn't believe in any Squares.
  vs
 A-squarism is not the default for anyone that doesn't believe in any Squares.

Stop...theres no fucking way you read all of my posts.........as such, you cant claim to have no evidence that I have no evidence........lazy.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 25, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Ybe Wrote: Astreja: The OP, and this whole thread, appear to be one massive tu quoque fallacy:

YB: that takes the form    
   A  claims X.
   B claims  A's claims  inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
   Therefore X is false.

That falls apart immediately because I reject B's claim.

A claims "I do not believe in gods."

B, who almost certainly does not possess the ability to read A's mind, has no way of falsifying A's claim and is just being an asshole when claiming that A's statement is false.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 26, 2018 at 12:11 am)Astreja"I don\t have a rational excuse for my belief, and you don't either! Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 3:46 pm)Ybe Wrote:  If you don't have a rational reason for your belief,  how can you claim to know that I don't have a rational  reason for my belief?

Where did I ever claim to know such a thing?   I believe it.  Big difference.
Fixed
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RE: Ybe an atheist
Your;re fixing things that aren;t broken..... like useless carpenter-come-handyman.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ybe an atheist
(May 26, 2018 at 12:19 am)Astreja Wrote:
(May 25, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Ybe Wrote: Astreja: The OP, and this whole thread, appear to be one massive tu quoque fallacy:

YB: that takes the form:   
   A  claims X.
   B claims  A's claims  inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
   Therefore X is false.
That falls apart immediately because I reject B's claim.
A claims "I do not believe in gods."
B, who almost certainly does not possess the ability to read A's mind, has no way of falsifying A's claim and is just being an asshole when claiming that A's statement is false.
That which I bolded above represents  tu quoque fallacy, which I am not using. (See below for my form):

If X true, then X is supported by L (a logical rational reason)
X is not supported by L
So X is not true
Ex.
If atheist Astreja's belief is logical, then that her belief will be  supported by  L
Astreja claims she has no L (rational excuse for her belief)
therefore her belief is not logical.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
Tha dumbness.  That Star;s claim is supported by the semantic value of her statements.

L2word or go home.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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