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Another reason to accept evolution.....
#71
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 23, 2018 at 11:38 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:It can be rather romantic to think that the driver is part and parcel of the car or the mind is part and parcel of the brain-body.

Strawman, as drivers and cars are shown to exist apart from each other.  Just as one may be described as a carpenter even when not in the act of crafting something out of wood, one may be described as a driver even when there isn't a car in sight.  No one has ever observed a mind without a brain.


Opsh.......Brian.

There is a big big problem with your point.
A driver or carpenter are still such even when not in the act of driving or crafting however nothing happen happen unless they drive or engage in crafting.

There has got to be a connection and an engagement if we want something to happen.
In humans and in all form of lives this engagement between mind and body start at birth.
A driver can well still be a driver even without driving but if he doesn't drive nothing happen.
A brain to work need a mind and a mind need a brain as far as the brain is alive.
Once the brain die there is no reason why the mind should also die.
Would you die when your car die?


Quote:The likelihood of the mind surviving the destruction of the brain is exactly equal to 70mph surviving the wreck of the car.
Boru

That is a load of garbage man.
Have you ever seen a dead mind around?
How can you destroy an abstract entity that you can not touch, smell, see, taste or hear?

Get real Brian an let your fantasies to little kids to indulge in daydreams.  Smile
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#72
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
The only reason to accept evolution is if you chosen hate of God and are looking for excuses to justify how irrational you are denying design in creation. Or if you believe in God, you lack courage to reason properly and think properly in face of the propaganda.
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#73
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason to accept evolution is if you chosen hate of God and are looking for excuses to justify how irrational you are denying design in creation.
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Why do you lie to yourself?


(June 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: ...
Or if you believe in God, you lack courage to reason properly and think properly in face of the propaganda.
Why do you project so often?
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#74
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason to accept evolution is if you chosen hate of God and are looking for excuses to justify how irrational you are denying design in creation.  Or if you believe in God, you lack courage to reason properly and think properly in face of the propaganda.

The only reason to accept evolution is reality.

The only reason to deny it is that you are an unredeemable ignorant superstitious ingrate moronic disgrace to your monkey ancesters.
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#75
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason to accept evolution is if you chosen hate of God and are looking for excuses to justify how irrational you are denying design in creation.  Or if you believe in God, you lack courage to reason properly and think properly in face of the propaganda.

Oh, MK, I see you've been working hard lately on your Zebibah.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#76
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 23, 2018 at 4:35 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(June 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: LR, can you provide any example of a mind absent a physical brain? Bet you can't/

Bullshit NDE claims in 3.... 2.... 1....


1.....2.........3............4..............5..........NDEs are REAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REAL, DEATH ARE REAL, DOCTORS ARE REAL, HOSPITALS ARE REAL and WITNESS ARE REAL.

My evidence is there while yours is not so you fail.  Smile

(June 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The only reason to accept evolution is if you chosen hate of God and are looking for excuses to justify how irrational you are denying design in creation.  Or if you believe in God, you lack courage to reason properly and think properly in face of the propaganda.


MK we all know that you are a very good guy but we also know that you are very very gullible in your approach to your beliefs.

The so called holy books have not been written by God but by people who had some mystic visions or by people who in good faith thought that that was what God is all about.
On top of that we had people who twisted some spiritual master words in order to prop their own agenda without mention those people who
lived in the desert that were hallucinated by lack of food-water or by the strong sun so I would be very very careful if I am in your place before you take what is written in books very seriously.

Why don't you leave these books alone for a while and think about what make sense and what doesn't?
Why God would create worms or other insignificant creature without giving them the chance to evolve like us?

Creation come first and evolution follow my friend.
Both you that only believe in creation and atheists that only believe in evolution are dead wrong.

I should really laugh both at you and the atheists that can not get a simple point correct but I rather feel sad to see all of you in such a mental mess.  Lightbulb
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#77
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 25, 2018 at 4:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1.....2.........3............4..............5..........NDEs are REAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REAL, DEATH ARE REAL, DOCTORS ARE REAL, HOSPITALS ARE REAL and WITNESS ARE REAL.

My evidence is there while yours is not so you fail.    Smile
(June 9, 2018 at 10:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: A different type of science is therefore needed but this is something that will pop up in the mind of materialists later on and when they will be sick and tired to  Banghead.  Smile

So there you go LR. You believe NDRs are not just real but susceptible to scientific experiments. So instead of complaining about scientists you be the change you're looking for. You make scientific research into NDR, like induce NDR on yourself and talk to those supernatural all knowing beings that you believe live there and tell us something we don't know or maybe bring back something from the NDE world.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#78
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 25, 2018 at 4:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(June 23, 2018 at 4:35 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Bullshit NDE claims in 3.... 2.... 1....


1.....2.........3............4..............5..........NDEs are REAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REAL, DEATH ARE REAL, DOCTORS ARE REAL, HOSPITALS ARE REAL and WITNESS ARE REAL.

My evidence is there while yours is not so you fail.  Smile

Called it. Big Grin
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#79
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 25, 2018 at 7:20 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 25, 2018 at 4:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1.....2.........3............4..............5..........NDEs are REAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REAL, DEATH ARE REAL, DOCTORS ARE REAL, HOSPITALS ARE REAL and WITNESS ARE REAL.

My evidence is there while yours is not so you fail.    Smile
(June 9, 2018 at 10:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: A different type of science is therefore needed but this is something that will pop up in the mind of materialists later on and when they will be sick and tired to  Banghead.  Smile

So there you go LR. You believe NDRs are not just real but susceptible to scientific experiments. So instead of complaining about scientists you be the change you're looking for. You make scientific research into NDR, like induce NDR on yourself and talk to those supernatural all knowing beings that you believe live there and tell us something we don't know or maybe bring back something from the NDE world.


I play by the rule FM and the rules are very very clear.
As you give life to your kids also God give life to all creation so as you would be very very upset if your kids kill themselves also God would be if we kill ourselves by trying to force an NDE on us.

Love is free.
If that happen that you have to go through an NDE by natural causes that is ok. but if you force your way in then you are in for a lot of trouble which is something that an intelligent person just want to avoid as hell so to speak.

If you have got some intelligent questions please tell me but if you keep on asking stupid questions then by all means don't.  Lightbulb



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#80
RE: Another reason to accept evolution.....
(June 26, 2018 at 5:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: As you give life to your kids also God give life to all creation so as you would be very very upset if your kids kill themselves also God would be if we kill ourselves by trying to force an NDE on us.

I didn't say kill yourself but near death and then come back. Now, if that won't work how do you propose scientists research it in what you call "different type of science is therefore needed"?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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