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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 4:25 am
(June 20, 2018 at 7:40 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Because it was?
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Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics on this one.
Hmm haven't seen those. The pictures I saw looked like this.
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https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621065383...9568965174
And also it's really deplorable that conservatives are now playing stupid by pretending these things didn't happen or that they didn't expected it because they all knew it all along since it was on the ballot and they voted for it
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 6:10 am
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(June 20, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (June 20, 2018 at 10:56 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: Like the thing about bussing in undocumented immigrants to vote for Hillary. Except with this, it's just an unnecessary fake depiction of something that happened in reality. Of course Napi did not even address your original question (the irony )
I do apologise, I was just going to sleep and on mobile as he asked the question.
To directly address his question to me:
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The above is from a Fox news report on TV.
So again, just to make the point clear. Calling people 'deplorable' for showing skepticism on news reports, regardless of whether or not the reports are true, is not really fair or intelligent when the exact thing these people are skeptical about has literally fucking happened, numerous times before.
(June 20, 2018 at 10:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I believe it was tweeted and then mass retweeted, but immediately taken down once it was fact checked.
It was tweeted by Mark Hamill of all people who took it down, but the original person who posted it (a 'journalist') in the first place still has it left up. I linked directly to his original tweet.
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 7:37 am
(June 20, 2018 at 10:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t think anyone is arguing that there aren’t ever circumstances where it is in the best immediate interest of the child to be separated from the adults they came with. It’s the fact that Trump and Co. were separating them in ALL cases as a form of cruel punishment (and hopeful deterrent) for crossing the border. Intentionally, and unnecessarily causing emotional and psychological trauma to young children as a means to a political end amounts to child abuse, IMO.
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I'm not sure I agree with that opinion.
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 7:52 am
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(June 21, 2018 at 7:37 am)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine
I'm not sure I agree with that opinion.
She’s not saying it’s an opinion she’s saying it’s a fact. Seen as we have so many fact checkers around are we gonna actually validate that claim?
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 7:56 am
I guess I don't get why so many on the right trust and believe the Cheeto again and again. He's a proven con man. I wish these people would google "Trump University" where he swindled so many Americans, many of them elderly and/or disabled.
He was a terrible person long before he became president. He's not worthy of anyone's trust.
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 8:00 am
(June 21, 2018 at 1:51 am)Wololo Wrote: (June 20, 2018 at 8:16 pm)A Theist Wrote: Oh yeah? Well, what about this picture that was floating around on social media of kids in cages at one of Trump's concentration camps...
Oops. My bad. This picture was from 2014 in one of obama's concentration camps.
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Here's an idea whiny nazi. Go write to your hero David Irvine, he'll prove the horror of family seperations as fake as Auschwitz. Ho hum... easily offended bitchy little stalinist snowflake... *yawn*
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 8:13 am
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(June 21, 2018 at 7:37 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (June 20, 2018 at 10:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t think anyone is arguing that there aren’t ever circumstances where it is in the best immediate interest of the child to be separated from the adults they came with. It’s the fact that Trump and Co. were separating them in ALL cases as a form of cruel punishment (and hopeful deterrent) for crossing the border. Intentionally, and unnecessarily causing emotional and psychological trauma to young children as a means to a political end amounts to child abuse, IMO.
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I'm not sure I agree with that opinion.
You should know me well enough by now to know that I’m happy to be corrected on any factual errors that my positions are based upon. Were they not implementing a “zero tolerance” policy on everyone crossing the border, including migrants with children in tow? Were they not using cruelty as s deterrent?
(June 21, 2018 at 7:52 am)Napoléon Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 7:37 am)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine
I'm not sure I agree with that opinion.
She’s not saying it’s an opinion she’s saying it’s a fact. Seen as we have so many fact checkers around are we gonna actually validate that claim?
Lol, that’s what he was implying, Nap.
It is a demonstrable fact that taking young children away from their parents, and especially breastfed infants, is cruel to the children. Would anyone like to argue that unnecessarily harming children is not cruel? By all means, you have the floor.
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 9:32 am
(June 21, 2018 at 8:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 21, 2018 at 7:37 am)mh.brewer Wrote: bold mine
I'm not sure I agree with that opinion.
You should know me well enough by now to know that I’m happy to be corrected on any factual errors that my positions are based upon. Were they not implementing a “zero tolerance” policy on everyone crossing the border, including migrants with children in tow? Were they not using cruelty as s deterrent?
I'm not convinced that "ALL cases" were a form of punishment and are more likely the result of bad application of a law/directive. I don't agree with the zero tolerance policy or it's apparent blanket application. Zero tolerance is stupid in almost any setting/condition/circumstance.
From what I've read not everyone(ALL) was/were separated(one example): https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/c...ed-parents
As for cruelty as a deterrent, I'm not convinced that was the motive but a resulting outcome. And couldn't the "cruelty deterrent" point of view be applied to any illegal immigrant turned away, adult and child alike, claiming conditions of poverty, death threats, starvation, persecution............? I think there will always be some level of cruelty with regard to immigration. Most I will have sympathy for, some not.
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 9:45 am
(June 21, 2018 at 8:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: It is a demonstrable fact that taking young children away from their parents, and especially breastfed infants, is cruel to the children. Would anyone like to argue that unnecessarily harming children is not cruel? By all means, you have the floor.
Sorry did anyone dispute this? Straw man much?
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RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 21, 2018 at 11:27 am
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Quote:The above is from a Fox news report on TV.
Lol he said reputable 
Quote:So again, just to make the point clear. Calling people 'deplorable' for showing skepticism on news reports, regardless of whether or not the reports are true, is not really fair or intelligent when the exact thing these people are skeptical about has literally fucking happened, numerous times before.
Actually it is when there doing it to downplay human suffering and protect the furher from criticism.That is deplorable no matter how much you excuse it.
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