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RE: Atheism
July 24, 2018 at 5:10 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2018 at 5:13 pm by Simon Moon.)
(July 24, 2018 at 2:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (June 25, 2018 at 8:37 pm)Kit Wrote: This is for those who always assert atheism is something it isn't.
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Wrong buddy.
The 'ism' in atheism denotes a system.
Therefore atheism literally means a system based on the non existence of God.
You cannot have an ideology without making any assertions.
So, what if we used the term "non believer" in place of atheism?
Does that now mean the position of disbelieving in theist's claims that gods exist, is no longer an ideology? I eliminated the 'ism', so that must mean that my disbelief in gods is no longer a system or an ideology, right?
I am glad we can finally agree on something.
You are too hung up on the word, and not paying attention to our actual positions.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Atheism
July 24, 2018 at 7:23 pm
The fact that you can choke to death while eating suggests that there is no such thing as "intelligent design." Or an intelligent "designer."
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RE: Atheism
July 24, 2018 at 9:55 pm
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Quote:Or you could just use the word atheist...
Nope because that's not what atheist means .An atheist is simple someone in a state or condition of Atheism( In an absence of belief )
Quote:Just as you would file a theistic religion under theism, you'd file an atheist religion under atheism.
Nope because those are not opposites Atheism is only the absence of a belief it can't be a belief itself.And any attempt at doing this can only be a mimicry of religious practices.
Quote:Take 'Sunday Assembly' for example, a religious organization of atheists that claim to be like a church without the 'God bit".
https://www.sundayassembly.com/
Quote: Wrote:This is a notice that I am quitting the work that I was doing day-to-day and using my time as CEO (I’m not going anywhere!) to do the thing that is needed more than ever – devoting as much of my energies as possible to spreading the word of what Sunday Assembly does
Would you not file a godless church under atheism, the same way you'd file a god worshiping church under thei
Nope Atheism is devoid of ideology these people are simply delusional if they say otherwise . There is no atheist system of beliefs this is simply a group of people who disbelieve and do weird rituals in mimicry of religion . It a social club with a religious looking motif.
(July 24, 2018 at 4:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Metabolism refers to a system...
So much fail in that post.
There is so much fail in this post .
Quote:Is metabolism a doctrine? Is anachronism a practice? Not every word that ends in "ism" is a system of beliefs or an "ism" in the way people usually mean it. Failure to realize this can be behind other errors here.
Way to totally miss the writers point Huggy and misuse the word system in the context the authors using it . As well as preforming the tired trick of hyper focusing on one word and ignoring the rest of the quote and it's overall point .
Quote:the suffix "ism" also means a "state, condition, attribute, or quality
Atheism a state or condition of absence of belief in god or gods
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RE: Atheism
July 24, 2018 at 10:51 pm
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
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RE: Atheism
July 25, 2018 at 1:29 am
Would these people be less confused if I said I'm a nontheist, or I'm not a theist?