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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 9, 2010 at 7:17 pm
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'Odd that you do not seem to expect them to accept and tolerate us?' says minimalist. i never said anything about what i expect of them, i don't see why it seems i don't.
from my experience most of the religious people i've met are tolerant of others. it would be nice if they all did, just as it would be nice if we all did. intolerance is probably equally as natural as supernatural belief, unfortunately.
'The day when all religion dies will come soon after the day when all impulse to commit crimes stops.' absolutely, chuck. never.
why do you hope for a secular world skipper? what will be better about it in your eyes?
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 9, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Yes i really do. Maybe not in my life time sadly..but im sure one day it will. People need to realize that they have a mind, that they are allowed to question there beliefs an dthink more rationaly. I mean why cant they see that? They think that atheist's are crazy or just mean to question and ridecule "God", but all we have done is sat on our asses, (not knees ) and thought about it for a while? There afriad of going to "Hell", well guess what we dont believe? I havent been struck by lighting yet? So yeah i do believe it will happen but not until everyone wakes up and realizes that we can use Reason Logic and Common sense to solve problems, insted of praying to a flying fairy in the sky?
"Religious faith is the species of human ignorance that will not admit even the possibillity of correction."-Sam Harris
For Man to move forward we must throw away religion, and put it in the Mythology section, and then use Reason, Logic, and Common sense to solve all our daily problems. That's a Higher Level of Thinking.
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 9, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Quote:i never said anything about what i expect of them, i don't see why it seems i don't.
That's exactly why I mentioned it.
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 5:54 am
There's a sucker born every minute.
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 6:16 am
Does anyone really believe that you are an Atheist?
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 6:23 am
(December 9, 2010 at 6:41 pm)Shinylight Wrote: (December 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: Does anyone really believe religion will one day die out?
No, there will always be people willing to believe anything.
And as such, clearly someone really believes religion will one day die out
The answer to the question is: almost certainly yes
theVOID Wrote:Does anyone really believe that you are an Atheist?
I don't believe that the OP is an atheist
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 7:18 am
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When I was an idealistic, bright eyed teenager, I really believed that religion would die out and human society would become non-religious, non-spiritual like the human society was on on Star Trek: The Next Generation. However then I matured into a man, realized the sheer ill-rationality and gullibility of a lot of my fellow human beings. Nowadays I very much doubt that one day all religion will die, alas
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 12:04 pm
What about the allegations that some people are hardwired toward god/religion?
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 2:39 pm
(December 10, 2010 at 12:04 pm)lilyannerose Wrote: What about the allegations that some people are hardwired toward god/religion?
If much of religion is driven by direct hardwiring towards god, then that make it more plausible for religion to die out by correlating religion directly to narrow biologically driven behavioral trait that is subject to narrow evolutionary selection pressure.
But I think religion exists not because hardwiring to god per se as susceptibility to uncritical emotional reliance. Uncritical emotional reliance has broader implications than just makes one susceptible to religion. It also has the potential to increase social cohesion through enhanced mutural emotional dependence. So if religion exploits a trait which affords selection advantages outside of religion, then it is harder to visualize why religion would die out.
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RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 4:14 pm
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(December 9, 2010 at 6:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You reminded me of a line from a song written by an aging southern veteran during the reconstruction-era and speaking of the north.
Quote:I can't take up my musket
And fight 'em now no more,
But I ain't going to love 'em,
Now that is certain sure;
You just reminded me of how I heard that song for the first time right after the 2004 election. Listening to civil war songs seemed appropriate considering how divided our nation was and still is. I was very shocked and angry that the fundies had so effectively mobilized to re-elect a man who'd lied us into a war. It was enough to make me temporarily suspend all feelings of connection to my own country. It didn't take much for me to write new lyrics to the song to suit my feelings at the time:
Quote:Oh, I'm a good old heathen, now that's just what I am.
for this 'Christian nation', I do not give a damn.
I'm glad I fought again' er, I only wish we'd won.
I ain't ask no forgiveness from any godling son.
I hates this 'Christian nation', and everything they do.
I hates their 'holy' Bible and ten commandments too.
I hates their politicians, their hands are drenched in blood.
I hates the bloody crosses, I fit them all I could.
I'd taken up my ballot, they ended up with more.
But I ain't gonna love em, now that is certain sure.
And I don't ask no pardon for what I was and am.
I won't be 'saved' or preached at and I do not give a damn.
Oh, I'm a good old heathen, now that's just what I am.
for this 'Christian nation', I do not give a damn.
I'm glad I fought again' er, I only wish we'd won.
I ain't ask no forgiveness from any godling son.
Yeah, I was really bitter at that time. The irony of using one of their songs wasn't lost on me.
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