Massacre of the Innocents

[sdelsolray]

If you had followed in Jorm's footsteps and actually watched the DVD you would see what stupidity you are throwing around. You are even going against what you said in your last post, you need to get it together and quit making things up so you can remember what you say. 

GC

I provided basic astronomical and geographical facts.  Your video ignores them, as do you.  In addition, your video is full of speculation and nonsense, all acting as infantile apologetics for certain religious wishful thinking.

You choose to rely on nonsense instead of reality.

[Minimalist]

Old fuckheads like you just bring out the worst in me.  I can't tolerate your kind of of stupidity.

 You first should learn to tolerate yourself. People like you who disperses as much hatred as you are know to be very unhappy with themselves, so go to your sandbox and get happy and leave the rest of us alone to carry on meaningful conversation.

GC

You deserve nothing else for all the damage you have done throughout history.  You don't get a pass for being a flaming asshole, G-C.  If you want to be praised for being a shithead go to a xtian board.  I'm sure you will find a like community of morons to tell you how fucking holy you are.

I'm going to hammer you with facts.  I don't give a flying fuck for your beliefs.  Blow them out your ass.

[Angrboda]

 Thank you for watching but it's to bad you couldn't see the real results. The program he used is one to be know as highly reliable and not only did he show the possibility of the planet topping it's progress over Bethlehem but that the criteria he sat up from the Bible before starting was also met, you seem to have missed this point or you just did not want others to know that fact. Opinions by you and others do not hold any weight, hr used a scientific method and still you and the rest want accept the science you seem to hold so dear. What you seem to dismiss because it "doesn't seem to or is not detectable by the human eye is only a playing of words. what appeared to happen through human sight is what the reality is. also you are wrong in your dating of the event, it happened two years after Jesus birth, the date of Dec. 25th was not set by the retrograde of the planet. Yes that's correct, the Magi came two years after the birth of Jesus. The announcement of Jesus birth came by the angels to the shepherds in the field that night, which does look to be Dec. 25th or close to that date. The Magi most probably did know the retrograde pattern of the planet if it is that stable. What they had never seen was the conjunction of the planet and star at the time the retrograde stopped, that had never been seen before nor since, funny that, what say ye. In what you wrote you have proven you and anyone you got information from did not pay attention to Mr. Larson nor what the Bible says. The scientific program and the Bible line up in 9 separate areas. It amazes me how desperate people are to dismiss Jesus, they will either flat out lie or intentionally leave out information so they can say, see i told you it wasn't true. In your heart you know this to be true and what you have done. I do once again thank you for looking into the DVD at the least you have more courage than Min and the rest here.

None of this answers the problems that I raised in my previous post. Until that is done, the problems will remain. You're just pissing into the wind.

[brewer]

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None of this answers the problems that I raised in my previous post.  Until that is done, the problems will remain.  You're just pissing into the wind.

With a bladder infection and stones.

[Huggy Bear]

So much for inerrancy then, eh?  I imagine Huggy and a few others on here will insist to their dying breath that the star took the reins of the horses and led them right to the fucking manger.

I won't tar you with that brush.

I don't think anyone with half a brain would suggest anything of the sort seeing how it took the wise men 2 years to make the journey,  making Jesus a toddler by the time they reached him.

You think Jesus was in a manger for two years?

[The Valkyrie]

Mary, “I was a virgin when I gave birth to my son!”

Observer, “Yeah, that’s why three random dudes showed up for the birth...”

[Huggy Bear]

As I just pointed out, they showed up two years after the birth...

[The Valkyrie]

As I just pointed out, they showed up two years after the birth...

Deadbeat dads?

[Godscreated]

 You first should learn to tolerate yourself. People like you who disperses as much hatred as you are know to be very unhappy with themselves, so go to your sandbox and get happy and leave the rest of us alone to carry on meaningful conversation.

GC

You deserve nothing else for all the damage you have done throughout history.  You don't get a pass for being a flaming asshole, G-C.  If you want to be praised for being a shithead go to a xtian board.  I'm sure you will find a like community of morons to tell you how fucking holy you are.

I'm going to hammer you with facts.  I don't give a flying fuck for your beliefs.  Blow them out your ass.

 Such a sweetheart you are, so kind and gentile, full of love for your fellow man, NOT. You are so full of hate toward anyone who thinks differently from you, why, what good does it do you, you live a life upset all the time, waste is what it is and I genuinely feel sorry for you, I hope that sometime in the future you find some kind of peace. Maybe it's because you spend to much time in the sand box and get your drawers full of sand and it just irritates those little jewels of your's and you just can't help but live a life irritated at the world. The only way I know to solve that problem is to stay out of the sand box and join the real world, get out and find life o' hateful one. This is my last post to you so don't expect to hear from me again and you might as well stop posting to me because I will not read them. 

GC

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If you had followed in Jorm's footsteps and actually watched the DVD you would see what stupidity you are throwing around. You are even going against what you said in your last post, you need to get it together and quit making things up so you can remember what you say. 

GC

I provided basic astronomical and geographical facts.  Your video ignores them, as do you.  In addition, your video is full of speculation and nonsense, all acting as infantile apologetics for certain religious wishful thinking.

You choose to rely on nonsense instead of reality.

 You and all who kudos you haven't seen it and do not know what it's about, so bug off little minded one. You have even contradicted yourself in the last two posts to me. You said the Magi would have known that the star would have stopped over the city in your last post and the one before you said it stopping point would be from a certain perspective, it would be according to where one was as to where the star would appear to have stopped. Spacial concept I believe you were spouting. Well you see God knew when He created the universe were those magi would be when the star stopped and from there spacial vantage point it was over the city just as God had plan thousands of years prior to the event. You have no concept of the knowledge or power of our living God and you just continue to make foolish mistakes at every turn, stop like the star did, reverse your coarse and search for the truth that can save you.

GC

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 Thank you for watching but it's to bad you couldn't see the real results. The program he used is one to be know as highly reliable and not only did he show the possibility of the planet topping it's progress over Bethlehem but that the criteria he sat up from the Bible before starting was also met, you seem to have missed this point or you just did not want others to know that fact. Opinions by you and others do not hold any weight, hr used a scientific method and still you and the rest want accept the science you seem to hold so dear. What you seem to dismiss because it "doesn't seem to or is not detectable by the human eye is only a playing of words. what appeared to happen through human sight is what the reality is. also you are wrong in your dating of the event, it happened two years after Jesus birth, the date of Dec. 25th was not set by the retrograde of the planet. Yes that's correct, the Magi came two years after the birth of Jesus. The announcement of Jesus birth came by the angels to the shepherds in the field that night, which does look to be Dec. 25th or close to that date. The Magi most probably did know the retrograde pattern of the planet if it is that stable. What they had never seen was the conjunction of the planet and star at the time the retrograde stopped, that had never been seen before nor since, funny that, what say ye. In what you wrote you have proven you and anyone you got information from did not pay attention to Mr. Larson nor what the Bible says. The scientific program and the Bible line up in 9 separate areas. It amazes me how desperate people are to dismiss Jesus, they will either flat out lie or intentionally leave out information so they can say, see i told you it wasn't true. In your heart you know this to be true and what you have done. I do once again thank you for looking into the DVD at the least you have more courage than Min and the rest here.

None of this answers the problems that I raised in my previous post.  Until that is done, the problems will remain.  You're just pissing into the wind.

 You must be imagining a problem, I have cleared things up and you revert to a past conversation, you know that you wouldn't bring to light the entire DVD and apparently you did not give much thought to the possibility that I would, did didn't I. Faced with truth you do as you always do, hide behind something to deflect from the material at hand. Science was used and yet you even reject it, you are wishy washy at best.

GC

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I'm finished with this thread for those who post you will be doing so in vain, I will not be answering them, I've given all that needs to be said from my side and you all just ignore that a man used science and held the Bible and science both accountable for truth, in the end He gave a reasonable answer to questions concerning the star, to me they seem correct, is there a possibility they are not, sure, but I believe highly unlikely. You ignore that the man used what you always demand, yet when it happened you scrabbled to make every excuse in the book, sad really sad that you can't accept science when it doesn't go your way, I feel more than sorry for you.
 
Most likely I will not be back for awhile, it's time to take a break from all the nonsense that goes on in the name of intellect, I need a breather and I have projects going that will consume much of my time for awhile, wishing all the best and hope to see you in the future.

GC

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As I just pointed out, they showed up two years after the birth...

I've tried to tell them that for years, they have this convenient thing called memory loss. They use it on any occasion that requires them to say well I guess the Christians were right after all. 

GC

PS. see you down the road I'm taking a break for awhile, stay strong in Christ.

[Angrboda]

A fine example of pigeon chess.