Massacre of the Innocents

[Minimalist]

[Amarok]

Ah technology turning ancient bullshit to dust since the invention of the telescope

[Graufreud]

Ah technology turning ancient bullshit to dust since the invention of the telescope

I read the explanation, sorry I don't remember where that the idea was that the generation that experienced slavery had to die out, and only freeborn were deemed worthy to enter the Promised Land. 
I think it makes sense... and I think it made sense to human authors of the bible (with their Iron Age logic and ethics). 

And then they came to the Promised Land and learned how to be slavers and slave-owners

[Minimalist]

Had nothing to do with "slavery."  Deut 1...starts at 26 and continues from there.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

Just god being a pissy little shit, as always.

[JairCrawford]

Lately I've been leaning more towards the whole 40 years wandering in the wilderness tradition likely having roots from a much earlier nomadic period that was later inserted into a once seperate exodus tradition.

[Minimalist]

In Israel they do not seem to hold with the "wandering" shit.  Professor Israel Finkelstein notes that they regard the episode as 38+ years spent at the oasis of Kadesh Barnea.  After the six day war his colleague, Amihai Mazar, excavated at Kadesh Barnea and found nothing.  No sign of Late Bronze Age habitation by anyone.

Xtians make excuses for that.  Archaeologists dismiss the story as bullshit.  I'll go with the archaeologists.

[JairCrawford]

In Israel they do not seem to hold with the "wandering" shit.  Professor Israel Finkelstein notes that they regard the episode as 38+ years spent at the oasis of Kadesh Barnea.  After the six day war his colleague, Amihai Mazar, excavated at Kadesh Barnea and found nothing.  No sign of Late Bronze Age habitation by anyone.

Xtians make excuses for that.  Archaeologists dismiss the story as bullshit.  I'll go with the archaeologists.

Keep in mind I'm referring to a theory that some of the progenitors of Israel/Judah (or even the greater Canaan area) started off as nomadic tribes before settling. Some theorize that the nomadic Semitic tribes could have migrated up from the Arabian peninsula, rather than what is now known as the Sinai region. (Actual mount Sinai could have been a volcano in the Arabian peninsula as well).

Reasons for this theory are primarily that there are passages in the Old Testament that speak of an age of wandering, yet do not mention an exodus at all.

Also there are extra biblical mentions of people like the Shasu nomads (associated with the name YHWH) in an ancient Egyptian papyri as well as a nomadic Apiru people mentioned in the Amarna letters.

None of these arguments seem to be made from an apologist view to me (although I've seen appologists use some of these arguments to try to support their views). In fact the very crux of these theories goes against a literal reading of Exodus.

[robvalue]

The infant purge is one of the few times a mass murderer is a bad guy in the bible.

[Graufreud]

I think Herod was a bad guy because he was background. His family was not Jews but came from Edom.... Moses killed Jews but was a good guy because he was a Jew.

[Chad32]

I think Herod was a bad guy because he was background. His family was not Jews but came from Edom.... Moses killed Jews but was a good guy because he was a Jew.

Yeah. People have been killed for less than "He might become a threat to me". It's not so much that he had children killed. It's that he opposed the person the books are centered around.