The Mary cult got rolling after the Council of Ephesus in 431. So, her bullshit is a 5th century invention.
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More thoughts about Immaculate Conception
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 (July 29, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I do kind of wonder, if god can just make people born without sin, and they retain their holiness for a number of years, then why doesn't he just do that with everyone? If the counter argument to that is free will, then did Mary not have free will? I think it is connected to tithing. If you know that you are sin-free, why should you give money to church/priests? But if you know that you are a sinful scum bound to hell, they go to to the church, donate money to priests/monks who pray for your salvation. So, demand and supply get to work... From the look of things God cares most about his holy men, levites, priests, monks, televangelists...
I liked the parts where these old yahoodies tolchock each other and then drink their Hebrew vino, and getting onto the bed with their wives' handmaidens.
 (July 29, 2018 at 9:53 am)Graufreud Wrote: 1. How old was Virgin Mary when she said, [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]“Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word”?[/color] Is there a point to this thread?
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Wiser words were never spoken.   (July 29, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Graufreud Wrote:(July 29, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I do kind of wonder, if god can just make people born without sin, and they retain their holiness for a number of years, then why doesn't he just do that with everyone? If the counter argument to that is free will, then did Mary not have free will? The shepherds have to fleece their flock somehow.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html (July 29, 2018 at 1:10 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What puzzles me most about Mary is not the beginning of her story but the abrupt ending of her and whole Christ family. After Christianity goes spectacularly public on the Day of Pentecost in Acts, they all immediately and completely vanish into thin air. Mary is never mentioned again. She never says or does anything, is never spoken to or heard of again, and nothing ever happens to her. We aren’t even told when or where she lived or died. The writers were horrible story tellers.  (July 29, 2018 at 1:06 pm)Graufreud Wrote:(July 29, 2018 at 12:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Are you being intentionally thick? The doctrine of immaculate conception covers the conception and birth of Mary, not the conception and birth of Jesus. Let me know if these words are too long for you, and I'll try again. Actually, I know I'm right. Technically, I'm still a Catholic, as I haven't been excommunicated (not for lack of trying, though). Boru
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 RE: More thoughts about Immaculate Conception
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(July 29, 2018 at 2:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(July 29, 2018 at 1:06 pm)Graufreud Wrote: Actually you are right. Are you an ex-catholic? I didn't know that either (ex-Protestant here if that makes a difference)... didn't know there was supposed to be anything special about Mary. Are you saying she was claimed to be born of a virgin as well as Jesus? Or am I completely misunderstanding your meaning here? As to the other, have you tried swivelling your head around? 
It's kind of funny that she's a saint to the catholics, and nearly as important as Jesus himself. To a protestant, she's just that woman who gave birth to Jesus, shared a name with two or three other women, and got ignored once when she came up to Jesus while he was talking to other people. No confirmation if Joseph beat him with a rod when he got home after disrespecting his mother like that.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html (July 29, 2018 at 3:54 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It's kind of funny that she's a saint to the catholics, and nearly as important as Jesus himself. To a protestant, she's just that woman who gave birth to Jesus, shared a name with two or three other women, and got ignored once when she came up to Jesus while he was talking to other people. No confirmation if Joseph beat him with a rod when he got home after disrespecting his mother like that. Yeah, to a Prot as I was, it seems that Catholics will worship anything but God
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