A year after Charlottesville ........

[CapnAwesome]

It's aimed at you, Brian.  Your rants are, if nothing else, amusing.

No, these are not simply "Rants". Keep staring at the tip of my finger while I point at the moon.

45 needs to be taken seriously and anyone trying to give him cover is going to be met with blunt condemnation.

I AM DEAD serious in saying he needs to be taken seriously, and no I am not sorry.

45 is not politics as normal and he is dangerous to global and national stability. If you want to marginalize that danger, I would not call that wise.

It's hard to be taken too seriously if I have to go off of your info though. Which you'll say "Trump said Nazis are good people!2!2!2!"

Even though that's not what he said. He said there were good and bad people on both sides of that protest. Considering that old southern ladies show up to every Confederate flag protest or whatever, and that Trump specifically condemned the Nazis at the time, I'd say he was probably referencing that.

You assume he was saying the Nazis are good people, evene though I don't see much evidence of that. I think it's possible Trump talks put of both sides of his mouth but as I've said as an atheist a million times, I need evidence. You never present evidence for anything. Just emotional arguments. The same emotional arguments that I find unconvincing as an atheist, I find unconvincing from you.


I mean, there is plenty to criticize him on. I do all the time. But when you just take everything in the absolute most negative context possible, it's just not convincing.

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Isn't it easier and more honest to not distort everything Trump says Brian? I mean, it's not like he's hard to attack on his own merits.

BULLSHIT, I am not distorting a fucking thing.

Back in the 70s he refused to rent or sell to blacks.

In the 80s he called for the death penalty for the Central Park 5, whom were later proved INNOCENT.

He perpetuated 5 years of the birther bullshit to sell fear of the black guy.

He started his campaign calling Mexicans rapists.

He called for the ban on an entire religion.

He attacked Civil Rights icon John Lewis, on MLK weekend.

He attacked Labron James who built a SCHOOL while 45 has KIDS put in cages.

He continues to vilify black NFL players, WHOM ARE NOT anti anthem, ARE NOT anti police, ARE NOT anti America, but merely pointing out social injustice in order to make America "A MORE PERFECT UNION" as in "E-Pluribus Unum" OUT OF MANY ONE.

No sorry, but he is a fucking racist and a bully and the truth is most of this garbage is to deflect from the fact he is a con, and has a history of bullying contractors and investors. He is really attacking the NFL because they refused to let him buy into a team ownership. He is vilifying the press and his own REPUBLICAN INTEL too. His family is also currently being SUED for violating the emolument's clause. And the FUCKER still has not released his taxes.

NO SORRY, there are no good KKK members or Nazis. Yesterday's comment that I posted above isn't a flat out condemnation. It was giving a bullhorn to VILE BIGOTS.

Oh and now he is calling Omarosa a "lowlife". 

If you can read this post and not see the long term pattern, of his bullying and using race to do so, you are a fool and delusional.

Half the things you say there are inaccurate or distorted. It's easy to see a pattern when you are making it for yourself. I mean, I do think Trump is a racist to one degree or another. That doesn't mean I believe he's Hitler. You told me last year he'd be mass murdering people on US soil by this time. So pardon me if you don't have the most credibility.

[Minimalist]

I'm a little unclear on this - so you're not a Trump supporter, then?

Boru

Shit.... Maybe this will help.

I FUCKING HATE TRUMP! 

Waiting for "Still not sure"

[Rev. Rye]

SORRY ASSHOLE, there is no such thing as a good KKK or Nazi member. 

Oskar Schindler would beg to differ.





Admittedly, for a KKK member or a Nazi member to qualify as good (at least if you mean "a good person") they would probably have to abandon white supremacy. Unless they're good in other areas that don't have to do with racism, like how Rudolf Höss would tuck his kids in bed at night after a day spent sending somewhere in the area of 5,000 Jews to their deaths. At best, the "good person" designation is utterly meaningless.

Yeah, compartmentalisation is an easy way out, but the fact remains that that's what makes us human. And failure to take that into account (either the compartmentalisaiton or their underlying humanity) will end up solving fuck all in the long run.

[Amarok]

Even though that's not what he said. He said there were good and bad people on both sides of that protest. Considering that old southern ladies show up to every Confederate flag protest or whatever, and that Trump specifically condemned the Nazis at the time, I'd say he was probably referencing that. 

Are you arguing that because they are old ladies that does not make them bad and i'm sorry the term good person and confederate protest don't go together and hell even marching or protesting with the Nazi's rather then against them is a sign you not a good person.

All in all his speech seemed like a limp wrested afterthought of false equivocations and supposed condemnation of the Nazi's sounded low energy and insincere like he honestly didn't care .But when he got to talking about antifa all of a sudden fire and fury .

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SORRY ASSHOLE, there is no such thing as a good KKK or Nazi member. 

Oskar Schindler would beg to differ.





Admittedly, for a KKK member or a Nazi member to qualify as good (at least if you mean "a good person") they would probably have to abandon white supremacy. Unless they're good in other areas that don't have to do with racism, like how Rudolf Höss would tuck his kids in bed at night after a day spent sending somewhere in the area of 5,000 Jews to their deaths. At best, the "good person" designation is utterly meaningless.

Yeah, compartmentalisation is an easy way out, but the fact remains that that's what makes us human. And failure to take that into account (either the compartmentalisaiton or their underlying humanity) will end up solving fuck all in the long run.

Nope sorry if you willing subscribe to  Nazism you are not a good person it's compartmentalization it's just not letting there evil idea's get watered down by the fact they were not a total monster at all times .That mentality is every bit as dangerous .

Example Hitler loved dogs does not mean he wasn't one of histories evilest men

[Rev. Rye]

One word, Tizh: Compartmentalisation.

That said, Trump always seemed to be far more interested in condemning the (admittedly, frequently irritating and occasionally morally questionable) left than the actively dangerous Neo-Nazis who probably helped swing the vote in his favour.

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Nope sorry if you willing subscribe to  Nazism you are not a good person it's compartmentalization it's just not letting there evil idea's get watered down by the fact they were not a total monster at all times .That mentality is every bit as dangerous .

It's dangerous, to be sure, but compartmentalisation is probably an inevitable part of being human. Most people don't take it to the extremes seen with racists, but the structures that allow us to do so, the way I see it, are built into our minds, and the only people who I've met who don't do it are too young to talk. Why, yes, That does suck.

[Amarok]

One word, Tizh: Compartmentalisation.

That said, Trump always seemed to be far more interested in condemning the (admittedly, frequently irritating and occasionally morally questionable) left than the actively dangerous Neo-Nazis who probably helped swing the vote in his favour.

And i respond it's not compartmentalization if a person takes on the philosophy of Nazism as tenet of their identity and all the vile ideology that is baked into that identity .Then i'm sorry you can tuck your kids till doomsday and still not be a good person. 

To your point on Trump i agree