Ontological Disproof of God

[KevinM1]

Stop quoting things you’re not even responding to. I’ve got 3 alerts here for nothing.

I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

If he would simply click 'Reply' and respond to one post at a time (which multiple people have suggested), then it wouldn't be (as much of) an issue.

[Losty]

Stop quoting things you’re not even responding to. I’ve got 3 alerts here for nothing.

I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

I’ve had that happen to me before too, but it doesn’t make sense then that it sometimes happens and sometimes doesn’t. It also doesn’t make sense that it continues after you already told him how to fix it. You can only fuck up so many quotes, ignore so many actual responses about your point while responding only to supposed ad hominem attacks before it becomes increasingly suspicious that you’re just trolling everyone.

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I mean seriously, he keeps pretending he doesn’t understand what the word “this” means when it’s been previously defined in the same post or even the same sentence.

[emjay]

I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

I’ve had that happen to me before too, but it doesn’t make sense then that it sometimes happens and sometimes doesn’t. It also doesn’t make sense that it continues after you already told him how to fix it. You can only fuck up so many quotes, ignore so many actual responses about your point while responding only to supposed ad hominem attacks before it becomes increasingly suspicious that you’re just trolling everyone.

I don't know whether it happens every time because I don't use the multiquote function very often... I tried it once or twice but that was enough, especially given that bug, to make me decide against using it in the future. I don't think he's a poe... though I will accept mockery for all time if I'm wrong ... just an old dude who's rarely/never used a computer before. Like I could just imagine my mum going through this exact same process, and messing it up just as much, that's why it seems plausible to me. But I think it's most likely that he's just pressing the wrong button... pressing 'quote' instead of reply, at times at least, and thus putting things in the multiquote list, as well as forgetting to check the bottom of the screen to see if anything is still in that list... which is something you shouldn't have to do before every post if it weren't for that bug, so understandable why it would be frustrating to have to do that and/or something you could easily forget.

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I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

If he would simply click 'Reply' and respond to one post at a time (which multiple people have suggested), then it wouldn't be (as much of) an issue.

I agree, but unfortunately it's hard to explain all this stuff without screenshots, if it's the actual user interface... the buttons... he's having problems with.

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I mean seriously, he keeps pretending he doesn’t understand what the word “this” means when it’s been previously defined in the same post or even the same sentence.

By 'this' I understand that to mean he has difficulty understanding/remembering context. That is he prefers terms to be clearly named or defined at the point he reads them, rather than referring back to something previously named/defined with the words 'this' or 'that'. I have a similar problem sometimes, when reading a book, when I wish it would just name something rather than call it 'this' or 'that', so I can be sure I know what it's talking about.

[Angrboda]

Clearing the multi-quote bug problem is simple. When you notice it multi-quote, click preview post, it will show the individual quotes as they will appear in the finished message. Click the green arrow for each post, bringing you to that post, clear the multi-quote button for that post, use your browser back button to return to the preview and clear the next one. Once you've cleared them all, you can reply without the bug affecting you.

[emjay]

Clearing the multi-quote bug problem is simple.  When you notice it multi-quote, click preview post, it will show the individual quotes as they will appear in the finished message.  Click the green arrow for each post, bringing you to that post, clear the multi-quote button for that post, use your browser back button to return to the preview and clear the next one.  Once you've cleared them all, you can reply without the bug affecting you.

I don't see any green arrows... but anyway that seems a bit long winded... especially if you were quoting a lot as you might do in a mafia game for instance. As I said I don't use the multiquote function much so it's not a problem for me, but when I do, I'm happy just scrolling to the bottom of the screen and clearing the list from the Quick Reply box.

ETA: I do see those green arrows now... I was looking at the wrong bit... but it doesn't change what I was saying above, in that seems a much more long winded way of doing it if there are a lot of quotes involved.

[negatio]

Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

Stop quoting things you’re not even responding to. I’ve got 3 alerts here for nothing.

I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

emjay, thank you so very much for defending me here, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what Losty is referring to. I AM NOT QUOTING THINGS I'M NOT EVEN RESPONDING TO; given my practically non-existent understanding of BB code, I cannot even consistently correctly quote what I am, in fact, responding to !  I am going to take Jormungandr's advice and go into Source Mode, I hope.  Negatio

[Abaddon_ire]

Negatio,

I wash my hands of you. I tried to help you in your presentaion and you have failed to follow said advice.

I am not the only one here to have done so, only to have said advice hurled back in our faces.

According to you, pressing the enter key twice to create legible paragraphs is far too complex for you to manage. A claim I find absurd. Especially given that I have done so 4 times so far in this post alone. How hard can it be to press the "enter" key?

Continue on like this if you must, but be aware that your style of presentation necessarily means that nobody will engage with whatever it is you are trying, and failing, to present.

Good luck in your endeavours. They are doomed to fail because of your stubborn attitude.

[emjay]

I think he's multiquoting without meaning to. And I think there's a bug in that process anyway, since it sometimes leaves one of the posts in the multiquote list selected even after posting the post with the quotes in, when it should be completely clearing that list. So I've had the same problem several times in the past as what seems to be happening for him; of it dragging around a single old post of mine because it didn't properly clear the multiquote list after posting.

emjay, thank you so very much for defending me here, I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what Losty is referring to. I AM NOT QUOTING THINGS I'M NOT EVEN RESPONDING TO; given my practically non-existent understanding of BB code, I cannot even consistently correctly quote what I am, in fact, responding to !  I am going to take Jormungandr's advice and go into Source Mode, I hope.  Negatio

What's she's saying is if you look at the post you've just posted... #406... the only person you're actually replying to is me, but at the top you'll see you're still quoting an old post, in this case one replying to Pandamonium and Losty. Any time it says 'author Wrote:' at the top of a quote, it will alert that user with a message saying 'user x quoted you in thread y'... and that message shows in your list of alerts. So in this case you only really want to alert me, because I'm the one you're addressing, but since it's still dragging along that old post, it will also be alerting Pandamonium and Losty, which will get and probably already is very annoying to them if they're not actually being addressed.

Are you ever pressing the button marked "Quote", which is to the right of the "Reply" button?

[negatio]

Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

I’ve had that happen to me before too, but it doesn’t make sense then that it sometimes happens and sometimes doesn’t. It also doesn’t make sense that it continues after you already told him how to fix it. You can only fuck up so many quotes, ignore so many actual responses about your point while responding only to supposed ad hominem attacks before it becomes increasingly suspicious that you’re just trolling everyone.

I don't know whether it happens every time because I don't use the multiquote function very often... I tried it once or twice but that was enough, especially given that bug, to make me decide against using it in the future. I don't think he's a poe... though I will accept mockery for all time if I'm wrong ... just an old dude who's rarely/never used a computer before. Like I could just imagine my mum going through this exact same process, and messing it up just as much, that's why it seems plausible to me. But I think it's most likely that he's just pressing the wrong button... pressing 'quote' instead of reply, at times at least, and thus putting things in the multiquote list, as well as forgetting to check the bottom of the screen to see if anything is still in that list... which is something you shouldn't have to do before every post if it weren't for that bug, so understandable why it would be frustrating to have to do that and/or something you could easily forget.

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If he would simply click 'Reply' and respond to one post at a time (which multiple people have suggested), then it wouldn't be (as much of) an issue.

I agree, but unfortunately it's hard to explain all this stuff without screenshots, if it's the actual user interface... the buttons... he's having problems with.

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I mean seriously, he keeps pretending he doesn’t understand what the word “this” means when it’s been previously defined in the same post or even the same sentence.

By 'this' I understand that to mean he has difficulty understanding/remembering context. That is he prefers terms to be clearly named or defined at the point he reads them, rather than referring back to something previously named/defined with the words 'this' or 'that'. I have a similar problem sometimes, when reading a book, when I wish it would just name something rather than call it 'this' or 'that', so I can be sure I know what it's talking about.

Emjay, again, thank you, precisely, when people, especially a person in authority around here, employs "this" when attempting to explain something to me, and, thereby, totally loses me, I am simply left hanging, stuck; and, then, the authority person does not even bother to respond to one's imploring requests to explain why, perhaps, one should always use the quote button, when, in fact, the reply button is so smooth and easy...now, I am being blamed for something the artificial intelligence mediating this site is doing, by mistake...this is spiraling into such extreme difficulty in dealing with the artificially intelligent robot, and, so much energy is being invested in wrangling about  the retarded robot, no one has even noticed,  that in my last response to Robvalue, I finally expressed what I am saying in a relatively simple, and, very straightforward manner, which deserves kudo ! ? Negatio.

[emjay]

Emjay, again, thank you, precisely, when people, especially a person in authority around here, employs "this" when attempting to explain something to me, and, thereby, totally losers me, I am simply left hanging, stuck; and, then, the authority person does not even bother to respond to one's imploring requests to explain why, perhaps, one should always use the quote button, when, in fact, the reply button is so smooth and easy...now, I am being blamed for something the artificial intelligence mediating this site is doing, by mistake...this is spiraling into such extreme difficulty in dealing with the artificially intelligent robot, and, so much energy is being invested in wrangling about  the retarded robot, no one has even noticed,  that in my last respone to Robvalue, I finally expressed what I am saying in a relatively simple, and, very straightforward manner, which deserves kudo ! ? Negatio.

No... no... DON'T USE THE "QUOTE" BUTTON; if you don't ever touch that button, you'll be fine. Just do what I said one more time... that is click on 'deselect' at the bottom of the screen like I said before... then after that never ever press the "Quote" button because that button is used for multiquoting and you're not ready for that, and it's that that is, indirectly, causing all these problems.