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Ontological Disproof of God
RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 2:19 pm)negatio Wrote: emjay
I have not looked at the disclaimer.

Nothing prior or subsequent to Sentence three can obviate the very clear meaning of Sentence three.  If the owners wanted Sentence three obviated, they would have erased the sentence, however the sentence still stands, and, all the staff and members who have broken the rule, by insulting Negatio, for three weeks, up to and including now, have a very personal interest in denying that the sentence is saying what it has said. Because, they, themselves can, then, be busted for violating the rule by insulting a new member. Kit and KevinM1 saw what the rule is saying, else, they would not have sent it to me, for my use.

What the fuck are you talking about? I referenced the rule because your interpretation of it is wrong.

Let me put it this way - I am not concerned about being 'busted' over any of my behavior towards you.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
I wish I'd never took pity on him in the first place, cos now we're probably stuck with this deluded doubling-down for all time. So lesson learned I guess... I guess I should go stand in the corner for that if nothing else Wink At least if he stays true to form, he'll stick to this thread and I can just ignore it.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:00 pm)emjay Wrote: I wish I'd never took pity on him in the first place, cos now we're probably stuck with this deluded doubling-down for all time. So lesson learned I guess... I guess I should go stand in the corner for that if nothing else Wink At least if he stays true to form, he'll stick to this thread and I can just ignore it.

emjay, you're a good guy. No need to change.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:00 pm)emjay Wrote: I wish I'd never took pity on him in the first place, cos now we're probably stuck with this deluded doubling-down for all time. So lesson learned I guess... I guess I should go stand in the corner for that if nothing else Wink At least if he stays true to form, he'll stick to this thread and I can just ignore it.

It was nice of you to give him a chance. FWIW I think you may have been right about him.

I don’t think he came here to troll. I think any trolling he’s done has been backlash because he didn’t like the responses he got. At this point he’s just in too deep and refuses to admit he’s wrong.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
IKR?  Ems one of those folks who can walk in on you yanking the bloody knife out of somebodies gut..turn around, and say to onlookers "now, waitaminute, let's hear him out!".  The world could always use more people like that.

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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Losty Wrote:
(September 13, 2018 at 10:31 am)negatio Wrote: Losty,
We need sort out the "troll'' insult.  I have just posted something on the insult in the special thread.

I cannot go back to considerations regarding my theories while under the constant and horrid ongoing insult that is being constantly, mistakenly, deemed a troll ! Negatio.

If you cannot handle insulting language or backlash, then this may not be the place for you. Consider moving to a gentler forum with less insulting. Might I suggest 4chan or YouTube comment section.

Will they worship him there? Anything less will surely be unsatisfying.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(September 13, 2018 at 3:00 pm)emjay Wrote: I wish I'd never took pity on him in the first place, cos now we're probably stuck with this deluded doubling-down for all time. So lesson learned I guess... I guess I should go stand in the corner for that if nothing else Wink At least if he stays true to form, he'll stick to this thread and I can just ignore it.

emjay, you're a good guy.  No need to change.

Thanks, but it is a problem... always has been. Like when I was growing up, me and my family were, through our church, trying to help this homeless alcoholic get back on his feet... for years... but it brought a lot of strife and division to our family and at the end of the day, the guy didn't try to help himself, so he's still an alcoholic as far as I know. Basically there's got to be a line... where it's not worth helping someone if they're not willing to help themselves... but recognising that line has always been hard for me.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm)emjay Wrote:
(September 13, 2018 at 3:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: emjay, you're a good guy.  No need to change.

Thanks, but it is a problem... always has been. Like when I was growing up, me and my family were, through our church, trying to help this homeless alcoholic get back on his feet... for years... but it brought a lot of strife and division to our family and at the end of the day, the guy didn't try to help himself, so he's still an alcoholic as far as I know. Basically there's got to be a line... where it's not worth helping someone if they're not willing to help themselves... but recognising that line has always been hard for me.

We had a friend like that. He recently died from alcohol poisoning. But even though he could never muster up the strength to help himself, I’m glad we gave him the help that we could and I don’t regret having him in our lives for the time we got to have him. The loss has been really hard on the kids but I think they’re better for having known him and lost him than they would have been never knowing him at all. He had a problem, a disease, and he couldn’t get himself out of it. Not even with all the support. But he was a good man.

Sorry for off topic rambling. It’s still hard to believe he’s gone.

ETA- oh right, I had a point lol. I think in most circumstances it’s worth it to try to help people whenever you can regardless of whether or not they deserve it.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:21 pm)Losty Wrote:
(September 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm)emjay Wrote: Thanks, but it is a problem... always has been. Like when I was growing up, me and my family were, through our church, trying to help this homeless alcoholic get back on his feet... for years... but it brought a lot of strife and division to our family and at the end of the day, the guy didn't try to help himself, so he's still an alcoholic as far as I know. Basically there's got to be a line... where it's not worth helping someone if they're not willing to help themselves... but recognising that line has always been hard for me.

We had a friend like that. He recently died from alcohol poisoning. But even though he could never muster up the strength to help himself, I’m glad we gave him the help that we could and I don’t regret having him in our lives for the time we got to have him. The loss has been really hard on the kids but I think they’re better for having known him and lost him than they would have been never knowing him at all. He had a problem, a disease, and he couldn’t get himself out of it. Not even with all the support. But he was a good man.

Sorry for off topic rambling. It’s still hard to believe he’s gone.

ETA- oh right, I had a point lol. I think in most circumstances it’s worth it to try to help people whenever you can regardless of whether or not they deserve it.

Yes, but there's also an argument for leaving it to the pros. Our guy was also a nice guy, me and him got on very well... when he was sober... but when he was drunk... it was just, horrible, and we had to deal with both sides. Basically I think we were too close to it... we didn't need to be that close. We could have left it to charities and social workers, rather than getting directly and personally involved... which resulted in a lot of broken windows etc when he was drunk... we shouldn't have given him our address basically, and instead helped from a distance.
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RE: Ontological Disproof of God
(September 13, 2018 at 3:00 pm)emjay Wrote: I wish I'd never took pity on him in the first place, cos now we're probably stuck with this deluded doubling-down for all time. So lesson learned I guess... I guess I should go stand in the corner for that if nothing else Wink At least if he stays true to form, he'll stick to this thread and I can just ignore it.

Nah. In fairness, I got to that cynical place long ago. Neggy has simply abused your better nature. Does that make you a sucker? No more than it does me or anyone else that at least tried.

Nevertheless, there comes a point where one must write off the irretrievable. I just got there first, twice. 

I take no pleasure in it. But the guy is a total cockwomble and we all have to fess up to that fact like it or not.

I went from cynic to helpful to write off. Our protagonist does not care either way.

Bridges? they be burned beyond reprief.
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