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If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
#11
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
It turns out It was actually in 2009 they made the change, it just didn't become widely realized until later, since they did it quietly, to no fanfare.

Pretty terrible that they won't remove the names of people who wish it.
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#12
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
That's how desperate they are to artificially inflate their number and their perceived influence. Pathetic.

In the same way, I'm going to write everyone in the world in my "atheist register", since they were once atheist, at the time of their birth. I just turned the whole population 100% atheist, by Catholic logic.
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#13
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 25, 2018 at 2:48 am)Aroura Wrote: A few years back I tried to formally leave the church.  Because I was baptized as a baby, my name was added to their official rolls at a time when I had no say-so in the matter.

In 2011, the RCC made it impossible to formally leave the church.  You can still stop going, and also submit a form that is symbolic, but once once your parents chose to sign you up, the church will not ever officially let you go.

This is why, until and unless I'm excommunicated, I'm qualified to be elected Pope.


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#14
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 24, 2018 at 9:50 pm)Losty Wrote: “the state Catholic Conference has turned in recent years to some of Albany's most well-connected and influential lobby firms to help block a bill that would make it easier for child sex abuse victims to seek justice.”

I don’t understand how anyone could think it’s ok to be a part of a group that lobbies against child sex laws. Obviously individual Catholics are not to blame, and imo most catholic people are good people who don’t want anything to do with child sex scandals. But....at what point does it become wrong to stay a member of an organization like this? If you’re a member of the Catholic Church and you’re not actively speaking out against stuff like this, i think it’s fair to say you’re a part of the problem.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.2655010

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#15
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 25, 2018 at 2:48 am)Aroura Wrote: A few years back I tried to formally leave the church.  Because I was baptized as a baby, my name was added to their official rolls at a time when I had no say-so in the matter.

In 2011, the RCC made it impossible to formally leave the church.  You can still stop going, and also submit a form that is symbolic, but once once your parents chose to sign you up, the church will not ever officially let you go.

So the Catholic Church has a master list of "members" and will not take anyone off the list? There's something I didn't know. My mother had me baptized too so I guess I'm on it. What a joke. I've been an atheist since I was 12 and never bought into any of the crap they tried to brainwash me with in Catechism - even when I was as young as 5.

I empathize now with a female friend I had back in 1990 who had her picture taken in a bikini by a tourist on a beach without her consent. She described feeling icky about the thought of this guy pasting her picture on the wall of his bathroom and jerking off to it when he was on the toilet. That's pretty much what the church is doing here. Pretty pathetic.
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#16
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 25, 2018 at 4:15 am)robvalue Wrote: That's how desperate they are to artificially inflate their number and their perceived influence. Pathetic.

In the same way, I'm going to write everyone in the world in my "atheist register", since they were once atheist, at the time of their birth. I just turned the whole population 100% atheist, by Catholic logic.

Apparently the Southern Baptist Convention does much the same thing, counting everyone who ever ended up in a SBC-sanctioned church service as being full-fledged members.

Also, if it's not possible to have one's name removed from the RCC's roster, is it also impossible to get excommunicated now?
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#17
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 25, 2018 at 10:20 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: If it's not possible to have one's name removed from the RCC's roster, is it also impossible to get excommunicated now?

Now? They never even excommunicated Hitler!
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#18
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
(August 25, 2018 at 1:40 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, but not all the money I give them goes towards crime. Some of it provides help for the people God can't be bothered to look after.

Why can't you find opportunities to donate that do not involve these criminals in cassocks?  Surely you know that they are taking a cut for themselves?
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#19
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
Nah, I don't want to directly help causes through secular charities. I want my money to go through the books of churches which they are allowed to hide from the government. I think that's a much safer bet.
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#20
RE: If you’re complacent, you’re complicit
Quote:Mexican Cardinal: Pedophile Priests’ Victims Should Think About Their Own Flaws

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