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An unhinged mob
#31
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:25 am)Joods Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:19 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't really consider it a peaceful gathering, when people are wearing masks, and carrying pipes.  This is an interesting characterization of anifta that doesn't seem to fit the facts.

A statue was coming down. Those on the right were the ones carrying weapons as part of their protest. Those on the left carried signs protesting the protesters. A man fron the right drove his vehicle into a crowd of leftist protesters.

How do you still see this as something violent from those on the left when they weren't the ones being violent?

Oh that's right. Your hero is tRump. You see nothing else but what he does and how he behaves as a good thing, no matter how he tramples on the constitutional rights of others.

No Trump is not my hero.... And you can look at other anifta protests if you like, to check your facts.
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#32
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:22 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:01 am)Joods Wrote: Interesting. I don't recall a lefty killing a woman, violently with his vehicle during the Charlottesville protests. Ohhhhh that's right. Because it wasn't a lefty.

It was a tRump supporter. You know, a guy on the right.

This thread is just more dumbassery proudly displayed by an incompetent, uneducated moron who fully admits to trolling these forums.

Bernie Sanders supporter shot up a bunch of congressmen playing baseball.

Also I'm not sure that the guy who did that car attack was a Trump supporter. I can't find anything about it in the first ten articles on Google about him and in the vice documentary the Nazis there said they didn't like Trump cause he 'gave his daughter to a Jew'

Oh Yay! Another person comparing apples to oranges.

The difference is that the Bernie Sanders supporter was not part of a group of protesters. He was a dumbass who decided that shooting a bunch of innocent victims having a practice baseball game was better than using his voice. For that he should go to prison for ever.

We're talking about beta fail's inability to distinguish the difference between the People's right to protest and an actual angry mob.

Perhaps the Charlottesville protests was a bad analogy, however my point still stands that beta can't recognize the difference between the two.
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#33
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:26 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: With all due respect, alpha, I don't think you could recognize 'an unhinged mob' if it came up and bit you on the arse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxInKRUTjNU

Boru

Ah yes, Ireland. People forget real fast heh?
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#34
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:25 am)Joods Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:19 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't really consider it a peaceful gathering, when people are wearing masks, and carrying pipes.  This is an interesting characterization of anifta that doesn't seem to fit the facts.

A statue was coming down. Those on the right were the ones carrying weapons as part of their protest. Those on the left carried signs protesting the protesters. A man fron the right drove his vehicle into a crowd of leftist protesters.

How do you still see this as something violent from those on the left when they weren't the ones being violent?

Oh that's right. Your hero is tRump. You see nothing else but what he does and how he behaves as a good thing, no matter how he tramples on the constitutional rights of others.

Punch a Nazi in the face I'm sure is a peaceful chant. Antifa isn't a peaceful organization. If you don't think there hasn't been violence from the left as well, you just haven't been paying close attention. I've literally seen it with my own eyes in Portland.

I don't think that it's uncalled for, but there is a segment of the left, mostly young, white and male who likes to go out and fight with the alt right. I don't know what good denying that they exist does for your case.

I agree that calling everything a 'mob' makes no sense. That's just a right wing buzz word of the moment. But to deny that the left has done any political violence is crazy talk. A left wing activist tried to assassinate several congressmen. Every alt right protest is met with a violent response. I don't know how that can be denied.
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#35
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:34 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:25 am)Joods Wrote: A statue was coming down. Those on the right were the ones carrying weapons as part of their protest. Those on the left carried signs protesting the protesters. A man fron the right drove his vehicle into a crowd of leftist protesters.

How do you still see this as something violent from those on the left when they weren't the ones being violent?

Oh that's right. Your hero is tRump. You see nothing else but what he does and how he behaves as a good thing, no matter how he tramples on the constitutional rights of others.

Punch a Nazi in the face I'm sure is a peaceful chant. Antifa isn't a peaceful organization. If you don't think there hasn't been violence from the left as well, you just haven't been paying close attention. I've literally seen it with my own eyes in Portland.

I don't think that it's uncalled for, but there is a segment of the left, mostly young, white and male who likes to go out and fight with the alt right. I don't know what good denying that they exist does for your case.

I agree that calling everything a 'mob' makes no sense. That's just a right wing buzz word of the moment. But to deny that the left has done any political violence is crazy talk. A left wing activist tried to assassinate several congressmen. Every alt right protest is met with violence. I don't know how that can be denied.

Where did I deny that they exist? I'm trying to keep with beta's wrong view of this thread.

There's angry people everywhere. But to use the mentality that those protesting at the kavanaugh hearings were an "angry mob" is just ridiculous. It's a phrase that tRump pulled out of his ass, at a rally, days after he stated to reporters that he found Ford's testimony credible. Beta's use of it clearly shows that he's willing to blindly follow and support a misogynistic piece of shit, even when it's clear he's in the wrong.
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#36
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:31 am)Joods Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:22 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Bernie Sanders supporter shot up a bunch of congressmen playing baseball.

Also I'm not sure that the guy who did that car attack was a Trump supporter. I can't find anything about it in the first ten articles on Google about him and in the vice documentary the Nazis there said they didn't like Trump cause he 'gave his daughter to a Jew'

Oh Yay! Another person comparing apples to oranges.

The difference is that the Bernie Sanders supporter was not part of a group of protesters. He was a dumbass who decided that shooting a bunch of innocent victims having a practice baseball game was better than using his voice. For that he should go to prison for ever.

We're talking about beta fail's inability to distinguish the difference between the People's right to protest and an actual angry mob.

Perhaps the Charlottesville protests was a bad analogy, however my point still stands that beta can't recognize the difference between the two.

I agree with you about the labeling of stuff as a mob. Thats just a sloppy attempt to delegitimize people. But you go off the rails when you start labeling things as peaceful that aren't or denying left wing violence. That is an equal misrepresention as calling everything a mob.

The counter protestors at Charlottesville weren't peaceful. How did the Nazis there get maced in the face? With peace spray? (Whether or not they should be peaceful is another discussion)
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#37
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:40 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:31 am)Joods Wrote: Oh Yay! Another person comparing apples to oranges.

The difference is that the Bernie Sanders supporter was not part of a group of protesters. He was a dumbass who decided that shooting a bunch of innocent victims having a practice baseball game was better than using his voice. For that he should go to prison for ever.

We're talking about beta fail's inability to distinguish the difference between the People's right to protest and an actual angry mob.

Perhaps the Charlottesville protests was a bad analogy, however my point still stands that beta can't recognize the difference between the two.

I agree with you about the labeling of stuff as a mob. Thats just a sloppy attempt to delegitimize people. But you go off the rails when you start labeling things as peaceful that aren't or denying left wing violence. That is an equal misrepresention as calling everything a mob.

The counter protestors at Charlottesville weren't peaceful. How did the Nazis there get maced in the face? With peace spray? (Whether or not they should be peaceful is another discussion)

Did you miss the part where I said it was a bad analogy?

Regardless - beta fail still doesn't know fuck all of what he's talking about.
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#38
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:42 am)Joods Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:40 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I agree with you about the labeling of stuff as a mob. Thats just a sloppy attempt to delegitimize people. But you go off the rails when you start labeling things as peaceful that aren't or denying left wing violence. That is an equal misrepresention as calling everything a mob.

The counter protestors at Charlottesville weren't peaceful. How did the Nazis there get maced in the face? With peace spray? (Whether or not they should be peaceful is another discussion)

Did you miss the part where I said it was a bad analogy?

Regardless - beta fail still doesn't know fuck all of what he's talking about.

I might of missed it. Thread is moving kind of fast. On rereading your posts you didn't deny left wing violence. So I misread you.

I really am not against a little violence in protests anyway. I'm pro-punching Nazis from time to time.

Calling every rowdy protest a mob makes no sense to me. A protest isn't supposed to be this sterile boring thing anyway. It's a fucking protest.
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#39
RE: An unhinged mob
(October 13, 2018 at 10:49 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(October 13, 2018 at 10:42 am)Joods Wrote: Did you miss the part where I said it was a bad analogy?

Regardless - beta fail still doesn't know fuck all of what he's talking about.

I might of missed it. Thread is moving kind of fast. On rereading your posts you didn't deny left wing violence. So I misread you.

I really am not against a little violence in protests anyway. I'm pro-punching Nazis from time to time.

Calling every rowdy protest a mob makes no sense to me. A protest isn't supposed to be this sterile boring thing anyway. It's a fucking protest.

No doubt, there will be anger in protests that result in some form of violence. Both sides are guilty of this. And protesters of either side can no longer consider it a peaceful protest.

But an unruly Mob? No. I believe we agree on this.
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#40
RE: An unhinged mob
The Right, embracing the rhetoric of victimhood, is as predictable as a sunrise. The GOP and their donors are like the dog who finally caught the car. For once, they have managed to deliver on things they've used for decades to lure working class cultural conservatives into their fold at election time. Without a narrative of victimhood and an ongoing bunker mentality on cultural issues, they are in real danger of people not showing up at the polls this time around.

That they seek to cast legitimate, peaceful (if outraged) protestors as angry, dangerous mobs is as disgusting as it is unsurprising.

That Alpha buys into that nonsense is also as disgusting as it is unsurprising.
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