An unhinged mob

[Shell B]

Wow, that's not even close to what you said. You're calling strawman when you legit said it's okay to get violent with people if they hate "education and regular exposure to different ideas . . .

Fuck is with people bullshit calling strawmen when what they said is legit a page back, there for the quoting?

Education and regular exposure to different ideas/cultures/races is the only way to fight ignorance. Of course, if the fight becomes physical/violent, you fight back, but you're never right if you start it.

It is if the people your fighting hate all those things .

Even in your post above you admit that you think violence is okay to "sway" people. You're not allowed to just "violence" people into submission because they don't agree with you. Some liberal you are.

And . . . you're not allowed to give a response that's a handful of words and then pretend you said something a paragraph long on the next page. Elaborate like a mother and call it straw man. Shaking my damn head.

[Shell B]

Also, I wouldn't educate grown morons. I would educate their children.

[Silver]

Half the time I think they simply like calling strawman to pretend they know what fallacies are.

[Amarok]

Wow, that's not even close to what you said. You're calling strawman when you legit said it's okay to get violent with people if they hate "education and regular exposure to different ideas . . .

Fuck is with people bullshit calling strawmen when what they said is legit a page back, there for the quoting?

It is if the people your fighting hate all those things .

Even in your post above you admit that you think violence is okay to "sway" people. You're not allowed to just "violence" people into submission because they don't agree with you. Some liberal you are.

And . . . you're not allowed to give a response that's a handful of words and then pretend you said something a paragraph long on the next page. Elaborate like a mother and call it straw man. Shaking my damn head.

1. It's exactly what i said . I said they hate education thus reasoning with them is pointless it's clearly in the statement and your quote supports me not you .So you did Straw man me .

2.I have no interest in swaying them . I have an interest in stopping them and if that not Liberal concept then it needs to be or Liberalism is doomed  and it's not a matter of disagreement some ideologies  are simply evil as seen above .

3. Pardon me if i gave intelligence more credit as to clearly be able to see what i was saying with a minimum of words. I guess from now on i'll have to write a novel to make simple concept comprehensible to you .

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Also, I wouldn't educate grown morons. I would educate their children.

Good luck getting them away from the cult or countering their peer group or pressures to conform .

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Half the time I think they simply like calling strawman to pretend they know what fallacies are.

That's not the case here .

[Shell B]

1. It's exactly what i said . I said they hate education thus reasoning with them is pointless it's clearly in the statement and your quote supports me not you .So you did Straw man me .

Dude, I can't even imagine the gymnastics that are happening right now. I'm going to ignore that your elaboration wasn't in your first post and move on to the fact that you've said reasoning with them is pointless, so violence is the answer, which is exactly what my "strawman" said you said. Let that sink in for a minute.

2.I have no interest in swaying them . I have an interest in stopping them and if that not Liberal concept then it needs to be or Liberalism is doomed  and it's not a matter of disagreement some ideologies  are simply evil as seen above .

So, you want to stop them with violence?

3. Pardon me if i gave intelligence more credit as to clearly be able to see what i was saying with a minimum of words. I guess from now on i'll have to write a novel to make simple concept comprehensible to you .

Oh, yes. You didn't like how your post came across, so it must mean I'm stupid, not that you couldn't articulate your way out of a paper bag.

[Amarok]

And to those who need it in graph form apparently because it's" complicated "

They hate education and are a violent hate movement =Education will thus not be effective in stopping them = Violence is justified when reason fails .

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1. It's exactly what i said . I said they hate education thus reasoning with them is pointless it's clearly in the statement and your quote supports me not you .So you did Straw man me .

Dude, I can't even imagine the gymnastics that are happening right now. I'm going to ignore that your elaboration wasn't in your first post and move on to the fact that you've said reasoning with them is pointless, so violence is the answer, which is exactly what my "strawman" said you said. Let that sink in for a minute.

2.I have no interest in swaying them . I have an interest in stopping them and if that not Liberal concept then it needs to be or Liberalism is doomed  and it's not a matter of disagreement some ideologies  are simply evil as seen above .

So, you want to stop them with violence?

3. Pardon me if i gave intelligence more credit as to clearly be able to see what i was saying with a minimum of words. I guess from now on i'll have to write a novel to make simple concept comprehensible to you .

Oh, yes. You didn't like how your post came across, so it must mean I'm stupid, not that you couldn't articulate your way out of a paper bag.

1.Too bad there is no gymnastics it was in my original post and did not need further elaboration or at least i thought it didn't because it's a simple concept and you did straw man me by acting as if the prerequisite for violence was simply hating education and not being a violent hate movement that hates education.I'm not about to go up to a Creationist and punch them because they hate education. I will do it to a Proud Boy .

2. Yes because it's the only way to stop them 

3. Or it could be it's just as i said and your just lashing out at me for saying it

[Amarok]

But let's break this down shall we 

Education and regular exposure to different ideas/cultures/races is the only way to fight ignorance. Of course, if the fight becomes physical/violent, you fight back, but you're never right if you start it.

Something group like the proud boys would clearly hate and oppose because their ideology is anti intellectual and anti multicultural . 

It is if the people your fighting hate all those things .

Violence is justified because that strategy won't  work because their ideology rejects such concepts and put my comment in the context of the thread where were talking about violent groups and the "people your fighting " as in the anti intellectual anti multicultural violent  hate groups becomes clear .

[downbeatplumb]

But let's break this down shall we 

Education and regular exposure to different ideas/cultures/races is the only way to fight ignorance. Of course, if the fight becomes physical/violent, you fight back, but you're never right if you start it.

Something group like the proud boys would clearly hate and oppose because their ideology is anti intellectual and anti multicultural . 

It is if the people your fighting hate all those things .

Violence is justified because that strategy won't  work because their ideology rejects such concepts and put my comment in the context of the thread where were talking about violent groups and the "people your fighting " as in the anti intellectual anti multicultural violent  hate groups becomes clear . 

[Amarok]

But let's break this down shall we 

Something group like the proud boys would clearly hate and oppose because their ideology is anti intellectual and anti multicultural . 

Violence is justified because that strategy won't  work because their ideology rejects such concepts and put my comment in the context of the thread where were talking about violent groups and the "people your fighting " as in the anti intellectual anti multicultural violent  hate groups becomes clear . 

I love the Life Of Brian 

[Shell B]

So, you're saying if they are violent, it's then okay to be violent, which is exactly what I said. I said it's NOT okay to be violent first, which is what you initially negated, so I have no idea what you're going on about.