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Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
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RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
(October 25, 2018 at 9:15 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(October 25, 2018 at 3:38 am)robvalue Wrote: He must know by now what atheists are going to think of this. The mind boggles as to his motivations. Trolling? Delusions that sudden conversions will happen? Ego that can’t be contained? Lack of any self control?

I really think he thinks that the words themselves have magical powers, and if he just blasts us for long enough someone is going to be touched by them.  He isn’t well.

I agree, he isn’t. He needs help, and I sincerely wish he would get it. I would hope that considering how he is constantly setting himself to fail here might make him reflect a little, and notice that his behaviour isn’t rational.
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#12
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
(October 25, 2018 at 9:30 am)robvalue Wrote:
(October 25, 2018 at 9:15 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I really think he thinks that the words themselves have magical powers, and if he just blasts us for long enough someone is going to be touched by them.  He isn’t well.

I agree, he isn’t. He needs help, and I sincerely wish he would get it. I would hope that considering how he is constantly setting himself to fail here might make him reflect a little, and notice that his behaviour isn’t rational.

I think he is getting medical help, but he is not fully invested in it, still does not completely believe he needs it, so the behavior continues. That's the nature of his beast, his disorder.
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#13
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
Oh ok, well I’m glad to hear he is getting help. That’s all anyone can do. But you’re right, if he is resistant to receiving help, it’s going to diminish its effects.

This is all rather difficult. How should we respond to MK? In general, how should we respond to someone who we have reason to believe isn’t mentally well? I don’t mean to be patronising, but to ask a serious question. Do we:

1) Treat them as we would anyone else and hope that our points make some sort of impact?

2) Treat them with kid gloves, either in a more noncommittal way or even going along with what they say?

3) Not interact with them at all?

I honestly don’t know what would be most beneficial, from their point of view, or from a moral point of view.

PS: I appreciate MK is probably going to disagree with my assessment, and that there’s not an issue here. But I would be interested to know how he would theoretically think it is best to treat someone who is mentally unwell.
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RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
(October 25, 2018 at 9:51 am)robvalue Wrote: Oh ok, well I’m glad to hear he is getting help. That’s all anyone can do. But you’re right, if he is resistant to receiving help, it’s going to diminish its effects.

This is all rather difficult. How should we respond to MK? In general, how should we respond to someone who we have reason to believe isn’t mentally well? I don’t mean to be patronising, but to ask a serious question. Do we:

1) Treat them as we would anyone else and hope that our points make some sort of impact?

2) Treat them with kid gloves, either in a more noncommittal way or even going along with what they say?

3) Not interact with them at all?

I honestly don’t know what would be most beneficial, from their point of view, or from a moral point of view.

PS: I appreciate MK is probably going to disagree with my assessment, and that there’s not an issue here. But I would be interested to know how he would theoretically think it is best to treat someone who is mentally unwell.


Everyone experiences mental illness differently. In my case, the demons and sorcerers did what they did,  to keep me from clarity and guidance, they did all to keep me away from Mohammad's family, the family of guidance.

And had I held on to God's rope from the onset, I would never been ill, and would be easily somewhere else right now.

And If I held on to God's rope earlier I would have long been cured.

They have failed and will continue to fail.

(October 24, 2018 at 11:19 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you keep doing this, MK?

Because I cling to hope.
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RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
(October 25, 2018 at 9:51 am)robvalue Wrote: Oh ok, well I’m glad to hear he is getting help. That’s all anyone can do. But you’re right, if he is resistant to receiving help, it’s going to diminish its effects.

This is all rather difficult. How should we respond to MK? In general, how should we respond to someone who we have reason to believe isn’t mentally well? I don’t mean to be patronising, but to ask a serious question. Do we:

1) Treat them as we would anyone else and hope that our points make some sort of impact?

2) Treat them with kid gloves, either in a more noncommittal way or even going along with what they say?

3) Not interact with them at all?

I honestly don’t know what would be most beneficial, from their point of view, or from a moral point of view.

PS: I appreciate MK is probably going to disagree with my assessment, and that there’s not an issue here. But I would be interested to know how he would theoretically think it is best to treat someone who is mentally unwell.

I think the best thing to do is not feed his delusion(s), he does enough of that himself. I will certainly point out when his delusions do not fit (for lack of a better word) with what is generally accepted as reality, and point out his resultant compulsions to self affirm that they are/should be accepted. 

At this time I don't think he is harming himself or others, except in his desire to have his delusions accepted and therefore have himself and his behavior accepted in his society. He's not much worse than the alcoholic/addict who refuses to see their self destructive behavior when it comes to interactions with others. His delusion(s) are his drug. 

So arguing won't help (that feeds) and enabling certainly won't help. I'll just keep pointing out that his thoughts/behavior are considered inappropriate, sometimes including negative comments to help him understand his lack of acceptance by the group.

I see that he posted, perfect example of his delusional/compulsive behavior.
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#16
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
The Quran rightly shows, what people called madness, is merely a trial and it has nothing to do with the favor of God which includes blessed vision of the unseen path and light.
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#17
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
That a yikes from me dawg.
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#18
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
(October 24, 2018 at 10:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: This prayer is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbC-eKRY6QY

Sounds like some asshole blowing on a kazoo.
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#19
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
Haters gonna hate. Such is the nature of the tree of envy.
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#20
RE: Treasures from the Houshold of guidance.
Why do you keep posting these things?

If you like them, then great. Are you aware what we are going to think about them? If so, why keep doing it?
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