The Quran and the chronological order

[WinterHold]

[ignoramus]

He only ordered the Quran itself to be written

And you know this because ...



C'mon man. You're pretty cluey on most things except this huge arse elephant in the room.

[Mr.Obvious]

The Sunni and Shiite sects use the chronological order stated in the Hadith books -like the order in the link I posted above-. This gives a lot of flexibility to play with the meanings, twist left and right to make a false point true.

Interesting hypothesis. Here's mine: people will find ways for holy books to mean whatever alligns with their own views no matter how they are read and, to an extent, no matter what's even written in them.

[onlinebiker]

Just cuz it' s written, doesn't mean it' s true.


If the Quaran or Bible were written today, they wouldn't even sell at the supermarket check out Lane.....


It' d be self published, internet sales only.

[downbeatplumb]

The Sunni and Shiite sects use the chronological order stated in the Hadith books -like the order in the link I posted above-. This gives a lot of flexibility to play with the meanings, twist left and right to make a false point true.

Interesting hypothesis. Here's mine: people will find ways for holy books to mean whatever alligns with their own views no matter how they are read and, to an extent,  no matter what's even written in them.

Indeed from what I've seen of the koran the language is flowery and vague. 

Some people have found a book of love and peace in there.
Others have read the same book and read, lets kill everyone that isn't exactly the same as us and rape all the women folk.

You get out of it what you take to it.

[ReptilianPeon]

I necer expected you to use "Wiki Islam". I try to avoid it myself. Though I admkt that I lost interst in examining the Quran many months ago and I have forgotten much. Has the reliability of Wiki Islam improved? Okay for Surah order that information should be the same everywhere as there is Ijmah on this? So maybe that's not a contentious subject?

[Minimalist]

EG: if you read page 1, then jump to page 500, there's nothing telling you which chapter was revealed to prophet Mohammed -peace be upon him- from God first.

OTOH, it is an effective way to get finished with the fucking thing faster.

[yragnitup]

Interesting hypothesis. Here's mine: people will find ways for holy books to mean whatever alligns with their own views no matter how they are read and, to an extent,  no matter what's even written in them.

Indeed from what I've seen of the koran the language is flowery and vague. 

Allah is a rapper. In Quran Chapter 55, 31 of its 78 verses are the exact same sentence!!

Flowery language? Well, the Creator of the Universe, Allah dedicated an entire short Chapter (111) just to curse Muhammad's uncle & untie  who saw through his baloney & refused to convert.

May the hands of Abu Lahab be ruined, and ruined is he.
His wealth will not avail him or that which he gained.
He will [enter to] burn in a Fire of [blazing] flame
And his wife [as well] - the carrier of firewood.
Around her neck is a rope of [twisted] fiber.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I suppose it is vitally important to know the chronological order of rubbish.

Nah.

Boru

[Jackie]