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Is atheism a belief?
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December 10, 2018 at 9:11 am
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2018 at 9:25 am by brewer.)
Somebody's being quite anal...... Agnostico.
I don't think it's the atheists that are calling it/them churches. That seems to be the religious societies label because they can't think outside the box. Are buildings where like minded people gather all labeled as churches? Simple definition(s): Atheism is a position that man made god(s). Atheism is a position that god exists as a concept only. Atheism is a position that believing god exists in reality is a fantasy. Atheism is a position that believing that god can physically impact reality is delusion. Something tells me that you're not as agnostic as you claim. Edit: Would you are to explain your "American" references when referring to atheists? Got some kind of a bug up your butt?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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December 10, 2018 at 10:35 am
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(December 10, 2018 at 9:11 am)wyzas Wrote: Simple definition(s): Atheism is a position that man made god(s). Atheism is a position that god exists as a concept only. Atheism is a position that believing god exists in reality is a fantasy. Atheism is a position that believing that god can physically impact reality is delusion. Every one of those can be classified as beliefs since they are in no way quantifiable / provable. Thank you for your honesty.  (December 10, 2018 at 9:11 am)wyzas Wrote: Simple definition(s): Atheism is a position that man made god(s). Atheism is a position that god exists as a concept only. Atheism is a position that believing god exists in reality is a fantasy. Atheism is a position that believing that god can physically impact reality is delusion. That's strong atheism, not atheism per se. While there's certainly nothing wrong with strong atheism (I myself am a strong atheist), this definition you provided doesn't cover the position of every person who lacks a belief in a god. Some people simply do not believe in a god, and that is it. They don't go further than this. (December 10, 2018 at 10:47 am)Grandizer Wrote:(December 10, 2018 at 9:11 am)wyzas Wrote: Simple definition(s): Atheism is a position that man made god(s). Atheism is a position that god exists as a concept only. Atheism is a position that believing god exists in reality is a fantasy. Atheism is a position that believing that god can physically impact reality is delusion. I'm certain that it's not every atheists definition or position, but it's mine. Agnostico's request for a "one definition fits all" is just silly............. and as I pointed out, anal.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
There is one very simple definition.
A theist holds a belief that a god exists. An atheist does not hold this belief.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
I've never met an atheist who holds the position that there positively is no god.
Some say I see no reason to believe there is a god. Some say it's unlikely there is a god. Some say the term god is undefined. None of them have said there certainly is no god.
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December 10, 2018 at 12:19 pm
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(December 10, 2018 at 4:40 am)Agnostico Wrote: Christianity is a religion based on faith You've ignored my challenge to the description you give for your own position. I'll repeat it. You said Wrote:I only believe in knowledge To which I said knowledge is usually defined as justified true belief. Are you seriously claiming all your beliefs are knowledge based by this definition? Meanwhile you seem to be having trouble with the idea that a person can reasonably check both boxes: no, I hold no belief in any god; and no, I don't know if any gods actually exist. Where is the contradiction? If in fact your agnosticism is so pure that you feel you just can't answer the belief question, can't you see that commits you to agreeing that at this time you do not actually hold a belief in gods? You might object that you likewise do not hold any disbelief toward any gods. That's fine and neither do some of us. I'm just not one of them where supernatural, omni-powerful gods are concerned. But since gods are mysterious if nothing else, it is always possible that those kinds of descriptions are completely off base and that whatever has given rise to god belief is something much more mundane. The poorly defined nature of "god" is part of the reason for this mess. Maybe once it becomes clear what we are talking about you and the rest of use will have a clearer idea in what it is we may or may not believe. RE: Is atheism a belief?
December 10, 2018 at 1:11 pm
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(December 10, 2018 at 12:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I've never met an atheist who holds the position that there positively is no god.*emphasis mine* Minimalist holds that posistion, I'm sure I can find a few others on this site.
I would liken the belief in a god to a belief that an invisible, intangible Eiffel Tower reaches out to the moon.
I would hold the position that no such structure exists.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
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