Anyone just watch POTUS/Nacy/Chuck?

[Brian37]

All three were in the oval office while Trump was lying saying he would take responsibility for the government shutdown if he doesn't get his wall, which the experts have been saying is a waste of money. Yea, and Mexico will pay for the wall, got it. 

Then the asshole brought up Israel's wall saying it is effective. Let's just forget that the LONG TIME GOP hero was Reagan who rightfully said, "Tear down that wall". I have never seen the wall between Palestine and Israel as effective, but divisive and purely and stupidly based on religion, not problem solving.

But the worst part in watching his tantrum just now, was when he used the word "transparency" when it has been almost 2 years and he has yet to release his taxes.

[Amarok]

Comparing the wall in Isreal is just stupid

[Brian37]

Comparing the wall in Isreal is just stupid

I really don't care. Even there I think Israel's leadership his so far disconnected from the Holocaust now, they have leadership that does not understand the "us vs them" mentality Holocaust victims were a result of. Walls do not make better neighbors, diplomacy does. 

The DMC in North Korea also has literally divided families. Berlin was divided too, after WW2. And that also was not a good thing.

All things considered, I have no problem with border security, but not based on labels or fear mongering. If one wants to say, "Lets keep violent people out" everyone gets that. It is when labels are used to sell fear that is when I have a problem. 

I have Hispanic neighbors on both sides of me, and I have lived next to them for 11 years now without one lick of trouble. I don't know their legal status, nor do I care. I know our violent criminals are a vast majority of people born here with legal status. 

And as far as walls over the decades, as far as Mexico or Israel, if walls worked, then I would not see story after story of tunnels being found. 

DIPLOMACY and economics are what work, not selling fear, not dividing humanity.

[brewer]

The dems should have never agreed to a televised event. That played right into the far rights hands. 

Was Pence drugged?

[Amarok]

Really i thought it was awesome . Trump looked like a total moron .

[Brian37]

Really i thought it was awesome . Trump looked like a total moron .

You would think coming unglued in public would destroy a public figure, but this orange turd is like every Marvel Comic super villain.