Will I get arrested for wearing this slogan in England?

[tackattack]

I agree slavery was wrong. I was merely commenting that most lies have a kernel of truth, and that kernel is important to me.

Do you disagree that people tend to take better care of things they own?
If
A. People treat things that they own better than things the rent
B. People can be things to own
C. Slavery would inherently have better treatment than wages

Of course that's not true, because people wanted someone to whip and beat into submission. While southerners had various reasons to attempt to justify their intolerance and other desires, the Abolitionists would rather fight something they don't agree with than see any truth in it and improve themselves. Slavery has been around for a long while and wage slavery is not a new idea, just as your local union or Cicero.

Back to the point of the thread. Religion is shit, slavery is shit, cancer is shit, whatever. You can mock it, protest it, hate it, whatever makes your sleep better at night. I see something I don't agree with and I believe the most useful steps is to understand it, value the truth in it, and try and improve it.

How about a shirt that says "Religion Sucks, change my mind?" like steven crowder. You'd be less likely to get beat up or arrested and might gain some insight

[downbeatplumb]

I'm planning on buying myself another Christmas (irony noted) present  - a top (or two) with "I Despise Christianity and Islam" written on it/them. I reckon Y'all could wear that in the states, but we don't really have free speech in the uk so 

I don't know what part of England you are from that would lock you up for that.
 It wouldn't be a problem in the part of England I live, apart from people will think you a bit of a dick.

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You live in the UK Boru? Kicking in of teeth is virtually unheard of in my limited experience...

Well there we can disagree. I have seen fights where people have been kicked unconscious. It was a while ago, but was in the UK. Someone pinched the wrong girls bum and another person got kicked unconscious.

[paulpablo]

Manchester.  London Bridge.  Westminster. It isn't the 'most people just don't care about religion' that are the problem.  It's the crazies who do.

The Muslim population is only 4.4% of the total population in the UK, mainly clustered in communities, and an even smaller amount of those go in for those kind of attacks.

Editz is right in thinking that the main thing he has to worry about is the police. They are more likely to see the T-shirt as promoting hate speech.

Saying that, if he was unlucky enough to get attacked by a Muslim religionist it wouldn't be having his teeth kicked in. He would more likely be stabbed repeatedly.

Why stop with the shirt, then?  You could go about wearing a sandwich board reading 'Fuck Muhammed'.  Wear it in front of one of those mosques and let me know how it works out.

The police would get involved.

As someone who lives in an area with a huge cluster of Muslims I could try and predict what would happen.

It would basically be the same as Die Hard when he goes into the ghetto with the sign that says nigger or something involving that word. If you're lucky then you'll meet the Pakistani version of Samuel L Jackson who might save your life.

They could be the least religious Muslims ever, drink alcohol, sleep with prostitutes, but they'd still see it as an insult to their family,group, gang whatever.  I think I'd probably be more concerned with the least religious because they might just see it as a great reason to fuck you up just for fun.  With a very religious person there's better odds that they might be the merciful peaceful type.

In one particular area around where I live I'd say there's an 70% chance you'd survive walking through with that T shirt, about an 80% chance you'd at least get a punch from someone.

If you got killed I don't think it would be on purpose I think it would be a case of too many people want to get a kick in before a peace broker steps in.

[Dr H]

I'm planning on buying myself another Christmas (irony noted) present  - a top (or two) with "I Despise Christianity and Islam" written on it/them. I reckon Y'all could wear that in the states, but we don't really have free speech in the uk so 

Weigh the pros and cons, and go with your conscience.

I have a Darwin fish on my front door.  But I wouldn't put one on my car.

Reasoned, thus:  
* My car is going to be in a lot more places, and seen by a lot more eyes, than my house.
* I am more likely to be religiously solicited in my home, than in my car (door-to-door JWs, etc.)
* Around here people are much more likely to fuck with my car than they are with my house.

As to the shirt, as a younger man I might have worn it in public, though even then I probably wouldn't have worn it to church.  Probably would have worn it to a bar, but then, when I was younger I did a lot of dumb things in bars.

Since then, I've learned to choose my battles more carefully.


But hey, sometimes you just have to do something, and see what happens.