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RE: Greetings
January 3, 2019 at 7:15 pm
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You may find that many here are ex-Christians who know the bible better than most. Hence our agnosticism...
You seem level headed and intelligent. You have to live with your beliefs. Whatever they may be.
We have no issues with anyone believing anything they like. That was never the issue.
The only gripe we have as skeptics, is having our intelligence insulted en mass by religious people coming here and trying to prove their god using logic and science.
(Which obviously can never work because it wasn't those things which made them believers in the first place)
Why is faith not enough for them anymore? It usually seems they are desperately trying to convince themselves more than anybody else...
Welcome aboard the not so crazy train matey...
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RE: Greetings
January 3, 2019 at 7:27 pm
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Welcome Woof.
If you don't mind, what is Celebrate Recovery doing for you? Just curious, don't feel compelled to respond.
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 2:15 am
Welcome. Meow.
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 3:41 am
(January 4, 2019 at 2:15 am)J a c k Wrote: Welcome. Meow.
One minute you're a Chihuahua, the next minute you're a cat 
please make your mind up as to what you identify with... 
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 9:46 am
Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your stay here and find some answers to the questions that you have.
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 10:00 am
Welcome to AF.
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 10:03 am
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(January 3, 2019 at 7:27 pm)wyzas Wrote: Welcome Woof.
If you don't mind, what is Celebrate Recovery doing for you? Just curious, don't feel compelled to respond.
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
It was for stress management. Being in a small town there are no support groups other than AA or NA. But after a month I started to dislike it but kept going because my wife found it useful for her depression but I'm slowly withdrawing from it because of my changing beliefs and the cult like behavior that's showing in Celebrate Recovery. If I need more help for stress, I might do SMART recovery because they provide online groups.
(January 3, 2019 at 7:15 pm)ignoramus Wrote: You may find that many here are ex-Christians who know the bible better than most. Hence our agnosticism...
You seem level headed and intelligent. You have to live with your beliefs. Whatever they may be.
We have no issues with anyone believing anything they like. That was never the issue.
The only gripe we have as skeptics, is having our intelligence insulted en mass by religious people coming here and trying to prove their god using logic and science.
(Which obviously can never work because it wasn't those things which made them believers in the first place)
Why is faith not enough for them anymore? It usually seems they are desperately trying to convince themselves more than anybody else...
Welcome aboard the not so crazy train matey... I completely understand. I no ulterior motives other than having friendly conversations and learning from other people. One could say I'm on the threshold for holding no religious beliefs because there's so much I don't believe.
(January 3, 2019 at 6:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (January 3, 2019 at 3:00 pm)alw0992 Wrote: Hello,
My name is Anthony. I live in a small town in Texas around 45 miles southwest of Ft. Worth. I work for an oil field company as a admin assistant. Graduated with a degree in psychology and have an unfinished master in criminal justice. Old career was working as a guard at a juvenile detention center. As far as my faith background, raised a Christian in the Baptist tradition. I nave no sad stories about my religious up-bringing, my family was fairly relaxed but extremely faithful at the same time. I began to question religion around my late teens and going into college, nothing ground breaking but researching Buddhism (from a philosophical standpoint) opening my worldview up a little bit. Then I started doing Biblical and religious research from a secular viewpoint and I began viewing Christianity from a different mindset and began questioning major doctrine. Now that I'm older, I'm more and more skeptical of religious dogma; mainly after becoming involved in Celebrate Recovery. I wouldn't call myself an unbeliever, but I can be lumped in with skepticism. I'm on the threshold, sort to speak, but I'm still holding on to a couple of beliefs; I'm sure out of a subconscious need for comfort. Sheldon Cooper, you finally decided to convert? Meh, I am a bit skeptical, but welcome anyway.
Skeptical of?
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 11:03 am
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(January 4, 2019 at 10:03 am)alw0992 Wrote: (January 3, 2019 at 7:27 pm)wyzas Wrote: Welcome Woof.
If you don't mind, what is Celebrate Recovery doing for you? Just curious, don't feel compelled to respond.
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
It was for stress management. Being in a small town there are no support groups other than AA or NA. But after a month I started to dislike it but kept going because my wife found it useful for her depression but I'm slowly withdrawing from it because of my changing beliefs and the cult like behavior that's showing in Celebrate Recovery. If I need more help for stress, I might do SMART recovery because they provide online groups.
Thanks for the response. I've got addiction issues myself and do/have done AA(12 step) and Smart Recovery also. Never did like the online stuff, guess I needed face time but my city is big enough to have groups everywhere.
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 11:51 am
(January 4, 2019 at 11:03 am)wyzas Wrote: (January 4, 2019 at 10:03 am)alw0992 Wrote: It was for stress management. Being in a small town there are no support groups other than AA or NA. But after a month I started to dislike it but kept going because my wife found it useful for her depression but I'm slowly withdrawing from it because of my changing beliefs and the cult like behavior that's showing in Celebrate Recovery. If I need more help for stress, I might do SMART recovery because they provide online groups.
Thanks for the response. I've got addiction issues myself and do/have done AA(12 step) and Smart Recovery also. Never did like the online stuff, guess I needed face time but my city is big enough to have groups everywhere. Understandable. Closest SMART recovery group is about an hour away for me. Celebrate Recovery is extremely cult like, which didn't shock me but the way the Granbury branch is ran is quite alarming. Good and loving people who are ready to help, but everyone wear CR shirts and always says "CR saved me," or "I owe my life to CR."
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RE: Greetings
January 4, 2019 at 12:03 pm
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(January 4, 2019 at 11:51 am)alw0992 Wrote: (January 4, 2019 at 11:03 am)wyzas Wrote: Thanks for the response. I've got addiction issues myself and do/have done AA(12 step) and Smart Recovery also. Never did like the online stuff, guess I needed face time but my city is big enough to have groups everywhere. Understandable. Closest SMART recovery group is about an hour away for me. Celebrate Recovery is extremely cult like, which didn't shock me but the way the Granbury branch is ran is quite alarming. Good and loving people who are ready to help, but everyone wear CR shirts and always says "CR saved me," or "I owe my life to CR."
My sister used to live in Granbury (Shell Oil employment), small world. Trust me, I live and interact with the "god did it" people on a daily basis. I just smile. If that's what they need to get thru life then it's OK by me. I know they don't really want to hear what's in my head.
The hour commute might be worth it.
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