Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The atheists main argument is not convincing either.

Please tell us what you think this 'main argument' is.

Boru

[EgoDeath]

How ironic that the theist is arguing that we're the ones arguing from ignorance. Their god conventiently explains all of the gaps in their knowledge that drive them oh so mad, yearning to answer the unanswerable questions, even if it means answering those questions inadequately or with an imaginary character they name 'god.' But we're the ones arguing from ignorance. Yea, sure.

[Agnostico]

So the basic argument is "That group of people cannot provide evidence for their God therefore it's false" A fallacy as shown.

Again, i'm not that group of people and I'm not claiming any creator so ur claims that a creator cannot exist are rubbish to me.

Besides if I was a theist, say a Christian, I would say that the religion doesn't need to provide evidence to anyone.
It's based on faith and ancient scriptures and has 2.2 billion followers.
And so the atheist response to this is still "u have no evidence" Its a lame obstacle that atheists cannot overcome.

At least I had some decent arguments wen I was an atheist. "With so many religions claiming so many Gods they can't all be true."
Or what about "the theory of evolution doesn't support the Adam and Eve story." Or that "there is no evidence of the Red Sea being split or a global flood". Or that "the Christian God only cares about Jews". Or that "science dates earth much older than the bible."

I used to argue these points along with some others with an old mate who claims he spoke to God while he was high on LSD. How do u argue a friend making that kind of claim without destroying the friendship?

The atheist position is a response to theist claims.
Can anyone at least agree on that?

Try ignoring theist claims and engaging in their rhetoric. And just ask yourself, is intelligent design at all possible?
If not, why?
If so what is its probability in ur opinion? 10%?
More? Less?

My position doesn't lay on claims made by theists.
The only person I need to prove things to is myself. Not a religion or a group of agnostic haters or anyone else.
Just myself.

[The Grand Nudger]

The problem, Agno..is that this is neither the argument of the agnostics, and they told you as much...nor is it the argument of the gnostics, and I've told you as much.  

Then we have the issue of you continuing to be mistaken as to what the argument from ignorance is and refers to.

At least I had some decent arguments wen I was an atheist. "With so many religions claiming so many Gods they can't all be true."
Or what about "the theory of evolution doesn't support the Adam and Eve story." Or that "there is no evidence of the Red Sea being split or a global flood". Or that "the Christian God only cares about Jews". Or that "science dates earth much older than the bible."

All favorites here on the boards. There are current threads along these lines right now. Awfully myopic though, those are just arguments against the god of magic book...not arguments against the existence of gods.

[The Valkyrie]

So, if I told you that I spent last night locked in passion with a three-boobed bisexual fairy from Pluto, the Bad Breath fairy, and a self aware toilet brush named Bernard, you would believe me because I make the claim but can't back it up with evidence?

If you say "yes", I question your integrity.
If you say no, I'll still question your integrity on the bais of your previous statements.

But let's take it a step further. I not only want people to believe me but for them to send me money because teleporting from Pluto is bloody expensive.

Would you dig into your wallet to help me based solely on my word?

[brewer]

My position doesn't lay on claims made by theists.
The only person I need to prove things to is myself. Not a religion or a group of agnostic haters or anyone else.
Just myself.

Then independent conformation or third person perspective you find unnecessary. Interesting.

What the hell you doing on the internet/forum then?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So, if I told you that I spent last night locked in passion with a three-boobed bisexual fairy from Pluto, the Bad Breath fairy, and a self aware toilet brush named Bernard, you would believe me because I make the claim but can't back it up with evidence?

If you say "yes", I question your integrity.
If you say no, I'll still question your integrity on the bais of your previous statements.

But let's take it a step further.  I not only want people to believe me but for them to send me money because teleporting from Pluto is bloody expensive.

Would you dig into your wallet to help me based solely on my word?

You promised that would be just between us.

Boru

[The Valkyrie]

So, if I told you that I spent last night locked in passion with a three-boobed bisexual fairy from Pluto, the Bad Breath fairy, and a self aware toilet brush named Bernard, you would believe me because I make the claim but can't back it up with evidence?

If you say "yes", I question your integrity.
If you say no, I'll still question your integrity on the bais of your previous statements.

But let's take it a step further.  I not only want people to believe me but for them to send me money because teleporting from Pluto is bloody expensive.

Would you dig into your wallet to help me based solely on my word?

You promised that would be just between us.

Boru

Sorry Bernard.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

See if I ever scrub YOUR bog again.

Boru

[Agnostico]

So, if I told you that I spent last night locked in passion with a three-boobed bisexual fairy from Pluto, the Bad Breath fairy, and a self aware toilet brush named Bernard, you would believe me because I make the claim but can't back it up with evidence?
If you say "yes", I question your integrity.
If you say no, I'll still question your integrity on the bais of your previous statements.
But let's take it a step further.  I not only want people to believe me but for them to send me money because teleporting from Pluto is bloody expensive.
Would you dig into your wallet to help me based solely on my word?

Ye it seems that way. Il get slammed if I say yes or no.
Ive asked questions and given my theories and views. The only thing I claim to know is that I don't know.
What previous statements r u referring to that makes u doubt my integrity? What part of my agnostic answer to God do u disagree with?

Then independent conformation or third person perspective you find unnecessary. Interesting.
What the hell you doing on the internet/forum then?

Its not that i find a confirmation or thrid person perspective unneccessary.
I find a response to theist claims to be unnecessary and counter productive.. A hinderance to thought and knowledge.
I think its fair to say that a 3rd persons view, a theist perspective, is neccessary to become an atheist?
Ive said why am I here. To understand the hate and dogma coming from atheists among other things.