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Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 3:56 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 3:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 28, 2019 at 1:28 pm)Sal Wrote: You can't prove a negative.

I get tired of reading this. Of COURSE you can prove a negative.

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Only something with positive attributes is possible to be disproven, otherwise not.
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 5:11 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 3:56 pm)Sal Wrote:
(January 28, 2019 at 3:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I get tired of reading this. Of COURSE you can prove a negative.

Boru

Only something with positive attributes is possible to be disproven, otherwise not.

Which is not the same as not being able to prove a negative.

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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 8:33 pm
I'm comfortable being an Ignorantium.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 9:53 pm
Yay. Agnostico is back. I am so happy. 😒
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 10:48 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 8:33 pm)wyzas Wrote: I'm comfortable being an Ignorantium.

You're an element?
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 11:00 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 10:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(January 28, 2019 at 8:33 pm)wyzas Wrote: I'm comfortable being an Ignorantium.

You're an element?

Yes, heating.
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 28, 2019 at 11:13 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 11:00 pm)wyzas Wrote:
(January 28, 2019 at 10:48 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: You're an element?

Yes, heating.

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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 29, 2019 at 2:10 pm
(January 28, 2019 at 2:12 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: We have many other arguments to support the positive claim that God doesn't exist.  Atheism doesn't rest on one argument alone, and each argument tackles a different aspect of the question.

Ok please put forward these arguments.
I know the theists arguments. Their not convincing.
The atheists main argument is not convincing either.
What else is there?
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 29, 2019 at 2:16 pm (This post was last modified: January 29, 2019 at 2:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
An atheist doesn't need an argument, they're only indicating that they don't believe in something.  

When I tell the religious, for example, I'm certain that their gods don't exist...I'm referring to a very specific set of existential claims they make about that god.  Not my own historic status of belief.  I'm insisting that their gods are a product of psychology and culture, of ignorance and even simple mistranslation.  That they exist as characters in a theologically important work but not as beings exterior to that work.  

In short, it's not because I don't believe that gods exist that I'm certain that gods don't.  It's because I know what gods are and exist as that I'm incapable of changing that historic status of belief. Some people, most atheists here at least...might agree with me on that if the subject is the judeochristian god - but defer to some other more nebulous god concept. They're not sure, in effect, that every god would be like that god.

I otoh, insist that my understanding describes the entire category of gods and god belief, not a specific god in that set.
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RE: Argumentum ad Ignorantium Fallacy
January 29, 2019 at 2:26 pm
(January 29, 2019 at 2:10 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(January 28, 2019 at 2:12 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: We have many other arguments to support the positive claim that God doesn't exist.  Atheism doesn't rest on one argument alone, and each argument tackles a different aspect of the question.

Ok please put forward these arguments.
I know the theists arguments. Their not convincing.
The atheists main argument is not convincing either.
What else is there?

"Argument?"

How about-- "You are telling me something, and I don't believe you.  Please demonstrate its truth."

Do you really need to form a cogent argument against every BS fairy tale them someone wants to throw at you?
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