Antigay Activist Blames Bird Death on DADT Repeal

[Minimalist]

Rednecks shooting off fireworks makes a hell of a lot more sense than 'god.'

Rednecks actually exist.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011...orks_N.htm

It wasn't a secret government spraying program, Martians or gas seeping out of the New Madrid fault that killed the 5,000 or so blackbirds that died New Year's Eve in Beebe, Ark.

It was someone shooting off professional grade fireworks in a residential district, scaring the night-blind birds out of their roost into a 25-mph flight that ran them into houses, signs and even the ground, says Karen Rowe, Arkansas Game and Fish Commission ornithologist.

"They were bouncing off houses, basketball backboards, trucks," she says.

Rowe made her observations Wednesday as Game and Fish officials got back further results from necropsies on the dead birds. The findings have given Rowe and others enough confidence in their original conclusions that they were having fun with some of the other theories floating about.

[DeistPaladin]

No lead or infection found in these birds, what would be the odds of all those birds falling from the sky at the same time if it were an infection or lead poisoning, such things work at different rates on individuals. Lead poisoning is a slow and agonizing death in most cases. I'm not saying God brought those birds down I do not know why they died I was asking for opinions with some merit to them.

If God did want to tell us something, I'm confident the very being that gave us sense, reason and the capacity to communicate would find a more effective means than smiting a flock of birds.

[Godscreated]

[quote="Godschild"]
You are wrong, man decided it was OK to have more than one wife, God has always said that marriage is between one man and one woman. The example was given at creation Adam received one wife not many.

If Yahweh ever forbid polygamy, concubines and sex slavery, his chosen people were completely unaware and practiced it throughout the OT. Lemach, the fifth generation after Cain, was the first to practice it.

Genesis 4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

No note from Yahweh, normally quite outspoken when upset about rules violations, that he did anything wrong. Abraham, considered the founder of all three "Abrahamic" religions, took two wives and kept concubines.

Lamech was not a Jew he was just another man that lived before God chose His people. I'm not sure Lamech was the first to practice this however he is the first mentioned. You should have read a little farther and you would have noticed that God was very displeased with the world "the Flood." Also note that the only men that made that boat ride had one wife each.

Genesis12:5 And Abram took Sarai his wife,
Genesis 25:1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
Genesis 25:6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had...

The founder of the Abrahamic faiths was polygamous and had sex outside of marriage. No word from on high that this was a no-no.

David was polygamous and declared "righteous" in all that he did except the matter of Uriah.

Abraham took Keturah only after Sarah died, no polygamy there. Yes Abraham had sex outside of marriage, the first time that's recorded was with Sarah's servant Hagar and this happened before God made the covenant and changed Abram's name to Abraham. Even so Abraham's people suffered greatly from the child of this union"Ishmael."

1 Kings 3:14 (Yahweh says to Solomon) And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.
1Kings 15:5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

And what else did David do aside from the matter of Uriah?

Yes David did wrong in more than the matter of Uriah and God punished David for this wrong and others David lead a life that was not a happy one. One of his sons dethroned him and tried to kill him, David was a man of many sorrows, yet David loved and worshipped his LORD. David was a good shepherd to his people and for this God favored him.

2Samuel 5:13 And David took him more concubines and wives out of Jerusalem, after he was come from Hebron: and there were yet sons and daughters born to David.

Indeed, polygamy is expressly regulated in the OT. Regulation of a practice suggests approval.

Deuteronomy 21:15-16 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

Regulation of a practice does not always suggest approval. We regulate alcohol in many ways yet there is no law that approves of public intoxication or drunk driving ect. ect.

[Minimalist]

Yes David did wrong in more than the matter of Uriah and God punished David for this wrong and others David lead a life that was not a happy one.

So....how come your 'all-knowing' god was surprised when 'David' turned out to be such a putz?

You'd think that 'god' would never be surprised by such things.

But it keeps happening to him over and over. Some god.

If a personnel manager at a company kept hiring the wrong guy they'd fire his ass for being incompetent.

[Ashendant]

There was a similar case of birds in romania and sweden, in sweden it's assumed it's fireworks, in romania they had alcohol overdose

[Of_Tomato]

There was a similar case of birds in romania and sweden, in sweden it's assumed it's fireworks, in romania they had alcohol overdose

At first they thought it was a polish truckdriver who hit them flying monsters with his big truck. Have'nt read anything more about the swedish birds after that though.

Btw, who is that stupid bastard in the video? Is she well known "over there"? And why does she say Fledding"?

[orogenicman]

OMG!!! The stupidity of that video just astounds me. Just goes to show that people often see exactly what they want to see. Patterns indeed!

[DeistPaladin]

Lamech was not a Jew he was just another man that lived before God chose His people. I'm not sure Lamech was the first to practice this however he is the first mentioned. You should have read a little farther and you would have noticed that God was very displeased with the world "the Flood."

Yahweh seemed upset with the violence in the world.

Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Also note that the only men that made that boat ride had one wife each.

Maybe that's only because they weren't fortunate enough to have more than one.

Abraham took Keturah only after Sarah died, no polygamy there.

My bad. I'd forgotten that Sarah died first. Still, there were all the concubines, and not just Hagar. I noted the plural form of the word "concubines".

That still counts as polygamy.

Yes Abraham had sex outside of marriage, the first time that's recorded was with Sarah's servant Hagar and this happened before God made the covenant and changed Abram's name to Abraham.

The practice of having concubines on the side with one's wives didn't end with Abraham, even if you want to interpret that he stopped the practice with the covenant (no indication that he did). Righteous David had them. Solomon had about 300 of them.

Yes David did wrong in more than the matter of Uriah and God punished David for this wrong and others...

The scripture specifies that the matter with Uriah was the only wrong that he had committed.

Regulation of a practice does not always suggest approval.

Yes it does.

Regulation may set boundaries for a practice but tacitly offers the stamp of approval of a practice within those boundaries.

Got any OT chapter and verses that says, suggests or implies that Yahweh condemned polygamy?

[FadingW]

If God had wanted to express displeasure at DADT repeal, wouldn't He have better ways of doing so?

Certainly not such an ambiguous circumstance as birds dying.

For that matter, the concept of limited human beings defying the will of an supposedly omnipotent God is strangeness itself.