help with a cartoon/instructional video

[bennyboy]

Given the amount of time that producing a slick version of a video that length would take, I'd expect it to run about $40k. I have a friend who'd be happy to help.

He was probably thinking of offering about $40.

[Fireball]

Given the amount of time that producing a slick version of a video that length would take, I'd expect it to run about $40k. I have a friend who'd be happy to help.

He was probably thinking of offering about $40.

  Or the REAL xtian promise- "God will pay you for this!".

[LadyForCamus]

You're lying to them about the nature of reality and about what the Darwinian theory of evolution entails. You are also probably lying to yourself.

see this is why I need the video...

I change nothing the current theory of evolution says (darwinism stopped being the current model like in the 1909, darwin simply is the father of the evolutionary theory, many things have changed meaning his theory has been revised many times since it was first published mid 19th century. None of which had anything to do with me.

Meaning even in the video I want to make I am not changing 1 thing in the theory of evolution. nothing changes at all. I am primarly showing the church how they have been reading the bible wrong. how the time lines are not imposed by the bible but by traditions that mean nothing. once those traditions are removed then that allows the whole unmolested and complete theory of evolution to be added.

are you so angry will you not allow your self to see the truth here? If so you will see I here am on the side of bring science into the church, undermining athority tradition and mindless beliefs. I want to destroy empty smugness and alot of the things that make church evil.

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Luckily, bearing false witness isn't a sin.

citation or example please.

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if someone is interested PM me and let me know what a 3 to 5 min cartoon type video will cost.

So, where in the Bible is the theory of evolution laid out?

[bennyboy]

1. Create everything.
2. ???
3. Profit.

The Christians haven't figured out yet that ??? = evolution.

[I_am_not_mafia]

You're lying to them about the nature of reality and about what the Darwinian theory of evolution entails. You are also probably lying to yourself.

see this is why I need the video...

I change nothing the current theory of evolution says (darwinism stopped being the current model like in the 1909, darwin simply is the father of the evolutionary theory, many things have changed meaning his theory has been revised many times since it was first published mid 19th century. None of which had anything to do with me.

Meaning even in the video I want to make I am not changing 1 thing in the theory of evolution. nothing changes at all. I am primarly showing the church how they have been reading the bible wrong. how the time lines are not imposed by the bible but by traditions that mean nothing. once those traditions are removed then that allows the whole unmolested and complete theory of evolution to be added.

are you so angry will you not allow your self to see the truth here? If so you will see I here am on the side of bring science into the church, undermining athority tradition and mindless beliefs. I want to destroy empty smugness and alot of the things that make church evil.

Yeah but you're someone who believes the brain is an antennae for the soul. There is absolutely no reason to believe that you have the slightest understanding about evolution and every reason to believe that you don't. Particularly when you try to make it compatible with creationism.

[Drich]

Given the amount of time that producing a slick version of a video that length would take, I'd expect it to run about $40k. I have a friend who'd be happy to help.

3 to 5 min= 40K? 

it took 100K to do the 16 min vader video that was so good disney snatched the rights and posted adds to make money on it that the fan film maker could not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey68aMOV9gc&t=823s this was only 2.5xs high than the national per min average. your'buddy' is 5 times the national average.

You understand I'm looking for a power point presentation with simple illustrations that depict a separation between what is understood and what I am saying the bible says/how it reads.

This can be done with toon creator software. and power point. i'm not looking to recreate scene from star wars and hire a full orchestra to write an original star wars esquescore.

also consider if I am paying full price then that's it. if the video goes viral I retain sole ownership of it and all work.. bt if you think about this.. ever christian on the planet is struggling with this issue to one degree or another. This allows us to retain full faith and accept anything 'science' has to say here. how many people is that as a potential audience member? 1/2 the planet? not only that muslims also hold to the orgins story as well as the jews not to mention the people on your side who would be curious... but if you want to cash out for a few grand up front I can see why you would want to sell your future for a bowl of lentil soup (because you have not read the bible and don't know the story of what was lost in trade for a bowl of lentil soup) 

Plus I've been shoping this around for a while and got a pretty good idea of what market price is.. I even have a quote from some guys who work for disney doing this very thing and even from them you are higher.. about 5xs higher than the national per minute average.. remember the vader video is only 2.5 times higher than the average youtube video.

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Drich...who gave you the authority to decide that others read the Bible incorrectly?  And you read it correctly?

That's a pretty ballsy claim.

1) The traditional reading does not allow for anything science says evidence shows to be true.
2) the traditional reading can not account for the cities in exsistence when Adam's family exited the garden.
3) the traditional reading uses incest as the answer to to whom did adam and eve's children marry, when we know that is not concistant with God will for us.
4) the traditional reading stop at the end of day 6 rather include all 7 days.
5) when read with a 7 day creation rather than 6 days and start chapter 2 with day 7 it changes the whole understanding of chapter twoto then become a inner garden account. meaning everything in chapter 2 becomes what Jesus created between day 3 and day 4 of his father's chapter 1 seven day creation.
6) The traditional reading contradicts itself in gen 1 man is created on day 6 and in gen 2 man is created day 4..

I don't have to point out these things are wrong.. you all do all the time... or rather did before I became a member here. Meaning if you are appalled at me telling people they are reading the bible wrong then know I am simply pointing out the atheist's pov or arguments as to why genesis fails in continuity. Eg, blame your peers and your non belief before you get all uppity with me. as again I am only poining out to christians the legit things you all point out as continuity errors in genesis.

Again I do not change anything but how it is read. I have the seven days of creation be the beginning and the end of the Father's 7 day work, and allow chapter 2 to read as the son's work in the garden. The way it is ropped off it reads like the typical hebrew round.. breif out line and then fill in details.. this still hold's sort of true in that we have an out line of the 7 day account but we typicall wronglfully do not see the works in chapter two as being seperate Garden only (whch is what the texts say)

Then I note that the end of chapter 2 is actually day 5 of the chapter one creation.. so chapter 3 could not have happened right after chapter two... which means there could have been a bazillion years between the end of chapter 2 and the beginning of chapter three (the fall of man/explusion of adam and eve from the garden.) the only thing we do know is it was about 6000 years ago by counting the generations back.

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see this is why I need the video...

I change nothing the current theory of evolution says (darwinism stopped being the current model like in the 1909, darwin simply is the father of the evolutionary theory, many things have changed meaning his theory has been revised many times since it was first published mid 19th century. None of which had anything to do with me.

Meaning even in the video I want to make I am not changing 1 thing in the theory of evolution. nothing changes at all. I am primarly showing the church how they have been reading the bible wrong. how the time lines are not imposed by the bible but by traditions that mean nothing. once those traditions are removed then that allows the whole unmolested and complete theory of evolution to be added.

are you so angry will you not allow your self to see the truth here? If so you will see I here am on the side of bring science into the church, undermining athority tradition and mindless beliefs. I want to destroy empty smugness and alot of the things that make church evil.

Yeah but you're someone who believes the brain is an antennae for the soul. There is absolutely no reason to believe that you have the slightest understanding about evolution and every reason to believe that you don't. Particularly when you try to make it compatible with creationism.

sweet heart I thank you but it is not my theory... most of modern science (science that happened after you went grey and stubornly locked your mind into a snap shot of what the world thought it was like at that time) is pushing this way.. here are some examples.

https://neurologism.com/2017/02/17/is-th...e-for-con/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...sciousness

here is even a scientific paper/study:
[url=https://jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/download/269/301][/url]https://jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/download/269/301




start at 3 mins

All I did here was take a more complex idea and paired it with pop culture references so that it is easy to understand and discuss. I guess my ablity to adress the complex with simplicity fooled you into thinking I was the only one who thought this way. Whether this theory is the most popular or not is secondary to the fact that science is indeed exploring this as a legit avenue of explaining consciousness. and you are not aware of it. to the point you think science in no form can support any of this to the conclusion. you are wrongly casting a judgement that my ability to cognitively understand and except something as fundamental as the basic theory of evolution is wrong..

And the bigger picture sailing over your head is.. if you are discussing this.. you are missing the bigger point all together. In that it does not really matter what science says about evolution at this point because we have the time line open to accept any changes needed to align ourselves with science on this subject. This theory simply takes down the wall between god and science. it does not prove either to be 100% correct it simply allows God and science to operate in the same space. while you fighting either or still, that specific argument is over as it no longer conflicts with the bible in any way shape or form.

[LastPoet]

Drippy,  god can never be part of science. Its untestable, unfalsifiable and relies on subjective belief without knowledge e.g. "faith".

And a 3-5 minute .pps can't even scratch the surface of evolution. It's a subject that takes some good years of study from several fields to be understood.

Yes, you are one of those that watched a couple of religitard videos and think you have understanding of it. I had 3 years of study on that, on a real school, with tests, exams and a lot of reading and experimentation and it wasn't enough to fully understand its intrincancies.

Use your money to go to college and take a biology degree. Then we will talk.

[bennyboy]

I had 3 years of study on that, on a real school, with tests, exams and a lot of reading and experimentation and it wasn't enough to fully understand its intrincancies.

Use your money to go to college and take a biology degree. Then we will talk.

Hmmmmm. . . any logical fallacies to be found here?  I think there might be.

I'm not saying you're wrong about god, but the way you are expressing it right now is all kinds of wrong.